Aston Villa v Southampton Post-Match Thread

[andyh]

I believe that Lambert will sleep on it overnight and if he knows already he's got very little money to play with and it appears reading between the lines that is the case he will tender his resignation.

Which doesnt help in any way at all because the incoming candidate will be in the same position and will find improving the team a thankless
task probably beyond him.

Whose fault?  Lambert's if Faulkner told him exactly what he could have in terms of finance when he accepted the position

or Lerners if he changed the goalposts(as Doug would have) as the season progressed.

The only hope we have of escaping relegation is that Darren Bent is selected and goes on a scoring run which he is quite capable of doing.

No other hope at all.

Why would he resign and lose a pay off ? Maybe mutual consent could be trotted out though I guess.I

Since when has resigning meant you don't get compensation ?

[hawkeye]

I believe that Lambert will sleep on it overnight and if he knows already he's got very little money to play with and it appears reading between the lines that is the case he will tender his resignation.

Which doesnt help in any way at all because the incoming candidate will be in the same position and will find improving the team a thankless
task probably beyond him.

Whose fault?  Lambert's if Faulkner told him exactly what he could have in terms of finance when he accepted the position

or Lerners if he changed the goalposts(as Doug would have) as the season progressed.

The only hope we have of escaping relegation is that Darren Bent is selected and goes on a scoring run which he is quite capable of doing.

No other hope at all.

Why would he resign and lose a pay off ? Maybe mutual consent could be trotted out though I guess.I

Since when has resigning meant you don't get compensation ?

for ever

[MarkM]

Another defeat, another poor performance and another step toward division 2 and oblivion.

We had a few ok minutes but other than that we were poor, slightly better in the second half.

Our squad is to weak and too inexperienced, and our manager is looking more out of  his depth every week.

We are starting to loose touch with some of the teams above us and our piss poor goal difference is starting to have its effect.

It was bloody cold down VP today and the cold winds of relegation were blowing around

The board and the manager need to have a chat and both need to be realistic in there aims and abilities, it's put up or fuck off time for Lerner and Lambert

[bertlambshank]

I believe that Lambert will sleep on it overnight and if he knows already he's got very little money to play with and it appears reading between the lines that is the case he will tender his resignation.

Which doesnt help in any way at all because the incoming candidate will be in the same position and will find improving the team a thankless
task probably beyond him.

Whose fault?  Lambert's if Faulkner told him exactly what he could have in terms of finance when he accepted the position

or Lerners if he changed the goalposts(as Doug would have) as the season progressed.

The only hope we have of escaping relegation is that Darren Bent is selected and goes on a scoring run which he is quite capable of doing.

No other hope at all.

Why would he resign and lose a pay off ? Maybe mutual consent could be trotted out though I guess.I

Since when has resigning meant you don't get compensation ?

for ever

Somebody had better tell MON then.

[neo_Villan]

I actually think the worst thing about the Chelsea, Spurs and Wigan games was that it showed the 3-5-2 formation had failed. I genuinely think Lambert thought he was on to something with it and the 6 game unbeaten run probably backed up that belief. After the car-crash of those 3 games he has clearly lost self-belief in his ability and it shows from his demeanour recently. He has tried everything and it has failed. The narrow 4-4-2 failed. The 4-2-3-1 has failed. Then the 3-5-2 failed. Now we are back to the 4-4-2 which has failed. Although as I have said, tactics are pretty unimportant when the players look mentally weak, nervous and not up for it. As much as I didn't want PL to be the same as MON, I did think he would have MON's man-management and motivational skills. Clearly not. He is just inept on pretty much every level and I will go on record as saying he is inferior to McLeish.   

[silhillvilla]

Must admit from where I was sat in P8 my initial feeling was penalty however it's such a joke of a decision it's untrue
What was Benteke on today ? Awful finishing again

[hawkeye]

I believe that Lambert will sleep on it overnight and if he knows already he's got very little money to play with and it appears reading between the lines that is the case he will tender his resignation.

Which doesnt help in any way at all because the incoming candidate will be in the same position and will find improving the team a thankless
task probably beyond him.

Whose fault?  Lambert's if Faulkner told him exactly what he could have in terms of finance when he accepted the position

or Lerners if he changed the goalposts(as Doug would have) as the season progressed.

The only hope we have of escaping relegation is that Darren Bent is selected and goes on a scoring run which he is quite capable of doing.

No other hope at all.

Why would he resign and lose a pay off ? Maybe mutual consent could be trotted out though I guess.I

Since when has resigning meant you don't get compensation ?

for ever

Somebody had better tell MON then.

He didnt resign, he walked out and claimed unfair dismissal, completely different.

[achilles]

Here's a link to my match report for today: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/aston-villa/fansverdict/12-01-2013/aston-villa-vs-southampton. As it seems to wind some up when I don't post the text here, i've done that as well, but if I can ask all of you a favour - can you click on the link and rate the players via the site (you can rate the manager and the ref too) as Sean and I are getting good numbers and people from here have played a part in that.

Needless to say, feedback is appreciated:

Aston Villa Match Report: Aston Villa 0 Southampton 1

I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the same old tired themes. I'm impatient of shambolic defending, hacked off with unstructured midfield, dissatisfied with overcomplicated attacks and spitting fire with incompetent officials.

I hate having my weekends ruined following a team with no desire, management with no tactical ability and an owner who must have a long-hidden vendetta against the club that's finally too overwhelming to rein in.

Needless to say, Aston Villa lost again, and it was down to a combination of slapstick and the kind of luck you get when the world isn't finished with the joke. The situation's not even worrying: let's just assume we're going down, and hold a wake for the rest of the season.

Today was the ideal opportunity to punt ourselves slightly ahead of the relegation pack and the pressure was too much. A great start went unrewarded and settled the game down in Southampton's favour, leaving them to exploit the space left by Villa's narrow midfield. Saints' full-backs were excellent and Jason Puncheon was a constant menace, but this is nothing new: it was the same when they thrashed us at St Mary's. Jay Rodriguez deserves a ban for his dive, which he won't get, but that'll be a footnote seven days from now.

Villa did play energetically and saw a late flurry create a header for Nathan Baker that hit the bar, but for the majority of the game it was piecemeal and frustrating. In flashes there were pelting runs that excited the crowd but no end product.

The amount of corners we had that didn't beat the first man was horrific, and Southampton picked up where Bradford City left off in terms of luck: they waited for Villa to retreat into the dark cloud that envelops the club and earned a relatively easy win. The fact that they didn't have to work for their winner was a welcome bonus.

It was a better second-half performance but the same frailties are massively obvious: Villa are spirited yet limited. We're now back in the bottom three and 18 goals have been conceded in five league games. Somehow it feels like a script is being played out because all the elements are there: no confidence, no luck, little money for new players, no signings on the horizon, fans against the owner, people turning on the manager. This isn't Roy Of The Rovers, and in real life there are no eleventh hour heroes to come off the bench and save the day.

Mathematically, there's a way to go before Aston Villa are out of touch. But there are no signs our luck might be changing. The imminent returns of more experienced players might surprise us all, but currently we're sliding out of the league with a whimper.

Every corner Villa turn leads to a cul-de-sac, and if there were other options, the sack might be what Paul Lambert would get. But a key decision like that is no guarantee of a positive outcome, and results like today confirm when everything's against you, the only thing you get is nothing.

please can some one tell me what is the point of this.If I want to read a badly written match report there are lots of other options.

You know what don't bother reading it then!
Actually I think its pretty good and I appreciate the effort that someone has put into writing a report but I suppose some people just find it easier to criticise everything!

[London Villan]

While Delph did ok today it was an insult to all the fans that went to Bradford on Tuesday to see the pairing of Delph and Bannan in the centre again today.

It was actually Delph/Westwood today.

Not for the last 10 minutes it wasn't after Bowery came on.

[Kingthing]

I never went today because of flu but I'm feeling a whole lot worse now.

Fickle.

[hawkeye]

Here's a link to my match report for today: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/aston-villa/fansverdict/12-01-2013/aston-villa-vs-southampton. As it seems to wind some up when I don't post the text here, i've done that as well, but if I can ask all of you a favour - can you click on the link and rate the players via the site (you can rate the manager and the ref too) as Sean and I are getting good numbers and people from here have played a part in that.

Needless to say, feedback is appreciated:

Aston Villa Match Report: Aston Villa 0 Southampton 1

I'm sick of it. I'm sick of the same old tired themes. I'm impatient of shambolic defending, hacked off with unstructured midfield, dissatisfied with overcomplicated attacks and spitting fire with incompetent officials.

I hate having my weekends ruined following a team with no desire, management with no tactical ability and an owner who must have a long-hidden vendetta against the club that's finally too overwhelming to rein in.

Needless to say, Aston Villa lost again, and it was down to a combination of slapstick and the kind of luck you get when the world isn't finished with the joke. The situation's not even worrying: let's just assume we're going down, and hold a wake for the rest of the season.

Today was the ideal opportunity to punt ourselves slightly ahead of the relegation pack and the pressure was too much. A great start went unrewarded and settled the game down in Southampton's favour, leaving them to exploit the space left by Villa's narrow midfield. Saints' full-backs were excellent and Jason Puncheon was a constant menace, but this is nothing new: it was the same when they thrashed us at St Mary's. Jay Rodriguez deserves a ban for his dive, which he won't get, but that'll be a footnote seven days from now.

Villa did play energetically and saw a late flurry create a header for Nathan Baker that hit the bar, but for the majority of the game it was piecemeal and frustrating. In flashes there were pelting runs that excited the crowd but no end product.

The amount of corners we had that didn't beat the first man was horrific, and Southampton picked up where Bradford City left off in terms of luck: they waited for Villa to retreat into the dark cloud that envelops the club and earned a relatively easy win. The fact that they didn't have to work for their winner was a welcome bonus.

It was a better second-half performance but the same frailties are massively obvious: Villa are spirited yet limited. We're now back in the bottom three and 18 goals have been conceded in five league games. Somehow it feels like a script is being played out because all the elements are there: no confidence, no luck, little money for new players, no signings on the horizon, fans against the owner, people turning on the manager. This isn't Roy Of The Rovers, and in real life there are no eleventh hour heroes to come off the bench and save the day.

Mathematically, there's a way to go before Aston Villa are out of touch. But there are no signs our luck might be changing. The imminent returns of more experienced players might surprise us all, but currently we're sliding out of the league with a whimper.

Every corner Villa turn leads to a cul-de-sac, and if there were other options, the sack might be what Paul Lambert would get. But a key decision like that is no guarantee of a positive outcome, and results like today confirm when everything's against you, the only thing you get is nothing.

please can some one tell me what is the point of this.If I want to read a badly written match report there are lots of other options.

You know what don't bother reading it then!
Actually I think its pretty good and I appreciate the effort that someone has put into writing a report but I suppose some people just find it easier to criticise everything!

Actually that is a terrible post, criticising my criticising, i guess some people find it easier to criticise everything

[ROBBO]

Here we go again sack the manager sack the manager sack the manager. I'ts no coincidence that the previous managers couldn't get it right either, how many managers do you want to sack before the penny drops that the manager may not be the problem. It's like this, the owner decides wages are far to high so decides to sell all our better players after all we have a great academy and the kids are going to be brilliant, we fill the side with reserve players then expect the manager to produce a quality team. Many of those kids are still in the team because the manager can't buy a whole team in six months. Do you seriously believe that Lambert can't see the problems? Lerner needs to back him or get out pure and simple.

[Ron Manager]

Lambert wasnt interested in Chris Wood. He was interested in a 500,000 journeyman from Chesterfield.

Says it all really.

By the way the word journeyman came from a Chesterfield supporter.

[preston28]

Just got home. Sunk a large Highland Park. However that hasn't dulled the pain or realisation that we are going to get relegated. (despite my earlier denials)
Never a penalty in a month of Sundays but we still can't score. We can't beat the teams around us, are in poor form, are a poor team with no confidence with a piss poor owner.

[hawkeye]

Here we go again sack the manager sack the manager sack the manager. I'ts no coincidence that the previous managers couldn't get it right either, how many managers do you want to sack before the penny drops that the manager may not be the problem. It's like this, the owner decides wages are far to high so decides to sell all our better players after all we have a great academy and the kids are going to be brilliant, we fill the side with reserve players then expect the manager to produce a quality team. Many of those kids are still in the team because the manager can't buy a whole team in six months. Do you seriously believe that Lambert can't see the problems? Lerner needs to back him or get out pure and simple.

is pretty much how i see it, i believe Lambert said he has got no money, if that is the case then it is not his fault