Quote from: Dave Clark Five on January 10, 2013, 07:32:23 AMIf you take the price of a game at, say, £30 (and that is cheaper than most games) and add up what you spend you get £1350 over a 45 game season. Multiply that by 40 seasons as an example. You get £54000. Over that period you have managed to pay one month's wages for one player. Now see how insignificant you are! shit, that point has really hit home how they're overpaid and how we're just consumers now, if we leave, then the club don't care, as long as someone else shows up.
If you take the price of a game at, say, £30 (and that is cheaper than most games) and add up what you spend you get £1350 over a 45 game season. Multiply that by 40 seasons as an example. You get £54000. Over that period you have managed to pay one month's wages for one player. Now see how insignificant you are!
Brian, just wait until we start playing music every time we score next season...
Its not the Villa its society in general, people accept it because they expect it. Its normal to be treated as a consumer these days and soon, if not already, kids will grow up knowing no different. The past isnt coming back. What you need is a tardis. If you find one will you give me a shout please.
Because I have seen more change than many others I probably feel it more acutely but the present malaise through the club from the owner right down to the performances on the pitch seems rooted in the relationship which the club now has with its supporters.Most areas of leisure and entertainment have been affected by american style marketing, detrimentally in my opinion. Football is no different and I think Villa is probably more typical than most of the effects of marketing of the game as a"product" because we are owned by an American and the people he has chosen to run the club reflect his ideas and his business background.In short, we, the fans, have become regarded as a crop to be harvested. Money was put into the club by the present owner when he bought it from his predecessor and that capital investment was it. A farmer spends money on seed corn and fertilizer then stands back and awaits results. If the crop is patchy, he puts down a bit more seed or a bit more fertilizer and awaits the harvest.Everything I see at Villa these days makes me feel less like a lifelong fan and more like a unit of consumption. I hate the endless mail shots to my home trying to sell me over priced tat. I hate the cost of the drinks. I hate cost of the food and its quality. I hate the cost of the programme and its banal content. I hate the volume of the public address system. I hate the stupid music played on the public address system. I do not want a flag. I do not want a scarf. I hate the stupid, deafening demands over the public address system to "get behind the lads in claret and blue". I hate the bloody stupid flag waving over the players. I hate the daft and meaningless giant plastic ball racing at half time. I hate the instant public address system at the full time whistle advertising programmes for sale or upcoming games when I want to cheer or applaud players who have done well. I hate the boring cliches which we are fed by successive managers about bad performances. I hate players who are playing badly feeding puffs to the tabloids in order to polish their own tarnished reputations on the advice of their agents. I hate the wall of silence which surrounds the club on matters which really are important to us like are we going to buy in players or not, what exactly is wrong with Richard Dunne, why is Ron Vlaar out for twelve games and counting, what is happening to Makoun, why did we roll over and let Martin O'Neill take us to the cleaners, why does Paul Lambert look so bored every time we take a battering. The list of things a loyal fans wants to know goes on and on but all we get are free flags and adverts for upcoming games.I want to get back to the way it used to be when we were a family, a tribe, an army of claret and blue who just wanted to see games of football on our ground in Aston. A family with an unbreakable, unshakeable bond with each other and the club, not a herd of flag waving, brain dead consumers to be sold rubbish (including the football) and to keep coming back regardless of how we feel about the treatment we get.
Quote from: Mortimer's Bear on January 11, 2013, 05:28:31 PMBrian, just wait until we start playing music every time we score next season...It could be a long wait..............
The thing is though, I and everybody I know who is serious about sport, subscribes to sky or foxtel, so who is to blame ultimately for it?
Quote from: robbo1874 on January 11, 2013, 02:52:22 AM The thing is though, I and everybody I know who is serious about sport, subscribes to sky or foxtel, so who is to blame ultimately for it?I take your point robbo but I am serious about the Villa and utterly refuse to give my money to these bastards...
Quote from: N'ZMAV on January 10, 2013, 09:56:41 AMQuote from: Dave Clark Five on January 10, 2013, 07:32:23 AMIf you take the price of a game at, say, £30 (and that is cheaper than most games) and add up what you spend you get £1350 over a 45 game season. Multiply that by 40 seasons as an example. You get £54000. Over that period you have managed to pay one month's wages for one player. Now see how insignificant you are! shit, that point has really hit home how they're overpaid and how we're just consumers now, if we leave, then the club don't care, as long as someone else shows up. A short while ago I would have completely agreed with this point. However my wife bought me a copy of the secret footballer for Christmas, which I am still reading. Whoever he is points to the fact that most of the money in the game comes from Worldwide tv revenue (which I suppose anybody who subscribes to sky contributes to). He also argues that club owners are equally to blame as players for agreeing to the ludicrous wages they earn. When you look at iI and everybody I know who is serious about sport, subscribes to sky or foxtelt, it's tv that has brought about all the changes to the game that most of us dislike. The thing is though, , so who is to blame ultimately for it?
Quote from: robbo1874 on January 11, 2013, 02:52:22 AMQuote from: N'ZMAV on January 10, 2013, 09:56:41 AMQuote from: Dave Clark Five on January 10, 2013, 07:32:23 AMIf you take the price of a game at, say, £30 (and that is cheaper than most games) and add up what you spend you get £1350 over a 45 game season. Multiply that by 40 seasons as an example. You get £54000. Over that period you have managed to pay one month's wages for one player. Now see how insignificant you are! shit, that point has really hit home how they're overpaid and how we're just consumers now, if we leave, then the club don't care, as long as someone else shows up. A short while ago I would have completely agreed with this point. However my wife bought me a copy of the secret footballer for Christmas, which I am still reading. Whoever he is points to the fact that most of the money in the game comes from Worldwide tv revenue (which I suppose anybody who subscribes to sky contributes to). He also argues that club owners are equally to blame as players for agreeing to the ludicrous wages they earn. When you look at iI and everybody I know who is serious about sport, subscribes to sky or foxtelt, it's tv that has brought about all the changes to the game that most of us dislike. The thing is though, , so who is to blame ultimately for it?The people I know who are serious about sport are playing it not sitting on their arses watching it.
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