Concrete Ron

[kippaxvilla2]

The club have made him an offer and he has not accepted it what else do you expect them to do?

[aj2k77]

The club have made him an offer and he has not accepted it what else do you expect them to do?

If he never had any intention of signing nothing can be done, but I'd like to think we'd begin negotiations a bit earlier than with less than 12 months left on the contracts of one of the few players actually worth anything.

[kippaxvilla2]

I blame the club for a lot of things but not this and we don't know when negotiations started in earnest.  Until very recently the shackles on 50k a week type deals were well and truly on so maybe that has been a factor in any delay.

[OzVilla]

Well the simpleanswer is Not wait so long, like other clubs do. Show some ambition so he'd want to stay, like other clubs do, give him an opportunity to play with better players, like other clubs do, play a better brand of football etc etc...........,,,,,

I understand it if Delph left for Man Yoo or Chelsea but he won't, it'll be Everton, Southampton, Newcastle type clubs IMO.

As for Vlaar, he's average but average is McGrathlike at the Villa right now.

[silhillvilla]

Delph is definitely over rated IMHO. He is a liability in terms of cautions and just doesn't do it enough and often enough to warrant any sort of clamour more than a mid table PL player. So he's got a couple of England caps, so has John Stones. England are crap.
If someone wants to pay him silly money let them it's just a shame we aren't able to sell him for £10m or beyond .

[Gregorys Boy]

Delph is definitely over rated IMHO. He is a liability in terms of cautions and just doesn't do it enough and often enough to warrant any sort of clamour more than a mid table PL player. So he's got a couple of England caps, so has John Stones. England are crap.
If someone wants to pay him silly money let them it's just a shame we aren't able to sell him for £10m or beyond .

That is a dumb post on so many levels, not least because John Stones is actually a really good player who would grace our team no question.  As for the cautions?  Part of that is because Delph is still young player learning the game, but also that aggression doesn't have to be seen as a bad thing if you can channel it.

Back on Vlaar, this is one of the few things which Lambert has handled well in terms of the interview on Monday.  I do expect Vlaar to go in the summer at this point.

[PeterWithesShin]

Any chance you can make your point without calling their post "dumb" because it's a different opinion to yours?

[Gregorys Boy]

Any chance you can make your point without calling their post "dumb" because it's a different opinion to yours?

Sure, but you do know that calling something someone says or posts dumb is not the same as calling them dumb?

[PeterWithesShin]

Thanks and yes.

[villan from luton]

The vibes are bad re Vlaar but lets be honest, is he top 4 material? He is injury prone and that wont change as he gets older

[Gregorys Boy]

The vibes are bad re Vlaar but lets be honest, is he top 4 material? He is injury prone and that wont change as he gets older

He's not top four material, but why should that bother us?  Right now he is one of our better players.  I think it would be good to hold on to him for another couple of seasons, but I don't know if that is realistic.

[villan from luton]

The vibes are bad re Vlaar but lets be honest, is he top 4 material? He is injury prone and that wont change as he gets older

He's not top four material, but why should that bother us?  Right now he is one of our better players.  I think it would be good to hold on to him for another couple of seasons, but I don't know if that is realistic.

It seems quite obvious he dont want to stay, dont want any player at my team who does not want to wear the great shirt. To be fair he has kept quiet about things and has not slagged the club off,

[OzVilla]

The vibes are bad re Vlaar but lets be honest, is he top 4 material? He is injury prone and that wont change as he gets older

He's not top four material, but why should that bother us?  Right now he is one of our better players.  I think it would be good to hold on to him for another couple of seasons, but I don't know if that is realistic.

It seems quite obvious he dont want to stay, dont want any player at my team who does not want to wear the great shirt. To be fair he has kept quiet about things and has not slagged the club off,

Players don't want to play for any specific shirt anymore nowadays, they simply go where;

A) They get paid the best rate their ability commands

B) They play at the highest level and challenge for honours

Figuratively speaking, we shop at Aldi

[nodge]

As opposed to House of Frazier?

[OzVilla]

As opposed to House of Frazier?

Very good, serves me right for using a small screen.