Concrete Ron

[pauliewalnuts]

Even thought it was whilst being a regular first teamer for us that he finally made it onto the world stage.  And even though we have shown incredible patience and loyalty by standing by him despite knowing and being proved right on his injury record?

Like footballers give a shit about that.

How were we proved right on his injury record, btw? What could we do other than "stand by him"?

He owes us nothing. Two things will come into it, ambition and money, and it's hard to imagine us offering enough of one of those, and pretty much impossible to imagine the other.

[silhillvilla]

It's going to be a very long season isn't it.

[olaftab]

At 29 Ron is possibly in last chance saloon of a super contract if he can get one. He performed well enough at WC to cash in. If he stays with us and let's his contract run out than he will not be in a similar good position next year. So he would want 4 years at at least £50K and we are not going to offer that just now.

[pauliewalnuts]

At 29 Ron is possibly in last chance saloon of a super contract if he can get one. He performed well enough at WC to cash in. If he stays with us and let's his contract run out than he will not be in a similar good position next year

Not too sure about that

If he waits a year, he'll be available on a free, which translates to better wages and a bigger signing on fee.

[silhillvilla]

The gamble for Ron with his injury record.

[RussellC]

At 29 Ron is possibly in last chance saloon of a super contract if he can get one. He performed well enough at WC to cash in. If he stays with us and let's his contract run out than he will not be in a similar good position next year. So he would want 4 years at at least £50K and we are not going to offer that just now.

The thing is, having a player who's a current Dutch International must also hold some commercial value to the club and also make us a more attractive proposition to transfer targets. For me, these factors would probably justify a 3-year deal on 50k a week. The problem is, I doubt anyone on the board will be thinking any further ahead than May.

[saunders_heroes]

Losing Vlaar to a big club with ambition is one thing, losing him to the mighty Southampton is another. God help us if we sell to that bunch of nobodies.

[Toronto Villa]

Losing Vlaar to a big club with ambition is one thing, losing him to the mighty Southampton is another. God help us if we sell to that bunch of nobodies.

That's fine. I heard they have raked in some serious dough these past few weeks. Charge them £25m for his services.

Truth is if Vlaar is in such demand wouldn't he be targeted by better than Southampton? And the only reason he's even linked to them is that his former gaffer is down there and mentioned him as an option. That's it. Nothing more concrete than that (pardon the pun). Even the Man U link is because of the Van Gaal connection. The links all seem very convenient as opposed to anything with any substance.

[kippaxvilla2]

Even thought it was whilst being a regular first teamer for us that he finally made it onto the world stage.  And even though we have shown incredible patience and loyalty by standing by him despite knowing and being proved right on his injury record?

Like footballers give a shit about that.

How were we proved right on his injury record, btw? What could we do other than "stand by him"?

He owes us nothing. Two things will come into it, ambition and money, and it's hard to imagine us offering enough of one of those, and pretty much impossible to imagine the other.

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With his injury record Yanited who are so inextricably linked with him would have turfed him out (see Ronnie johnsson).

I know I'm being stupid probably in expecting any loyalty but based on the generally accepted logic I'm struggling to see why Benteke was persuaded to stay last year.

[pauliewalnuts]

The thing with Benteke is yes, he stayed, and since then we've had another season of barely surviving follow by a summer of not really doing anything to suggest next year will be any different.

[kippaxvilla2]

The situation won't have been helped with all those fans giving Vlaar dogs abuse at the end of the Swansea game last season.

[kippaxvilla2]

I do think people underestimate his importance to us though.  At the weekend I watched the villa v QPR game (the 3-2) and the home game with Citeh and near enough all the goals given away were just naivity or bad errors by Baker or Clarke.

[saunders_heroes]

The situation won't have been helped with all those fans giving Vlaar dogs abuse at the end of the Swansea game last season.

If he leaves he won't be leaving because of the fans.

[kippaxvilla2]

The situation won't have been helped with all those fans giving Vlaar dogs abuse at the end of the Swansea game last season.

If he leaves he won't be leaving because of the fans.

Agree that was slightly tongue in cheek.

[Villa in Denmark]

He is also reported to have said

@football_oranje: Ron Vlaar, "Soon I'm going with my agent to the table and then we will go through the various options.'' (Fox Sports) #AVFC

3 options or variations on a theme.

1. Agree terms on an extension / new contract.
2. Decline above terms and see out contract.
3. Decline above terms and agitate for a move

1. Either requires the sort of sales pitch that could sell whale burgers to Greenpeace, or the promise of investment which seems unimaginable right now.

3 I would guess is only really going to happen if his agent has been approached by someone who can either offer CL, a bag load of cash or both.

2. Looks the most likely from here.