Quote from: olaftab on July 26, 2014, 03:48:59 AMQuote from: ciggiesnbeer on July 26, 2014, 01:57:09 AMImagine how livid we would be if our team had been gutted like theirs? Yes absolutely. I was reading an article earlier saying Luke Chambers to Arsenal now. This is quite an horrific " rape and pillage " however they do get left with a nice bank balance.Just posted on the other clubs transfer thread that as a mediumish sized club who played some top draw football last year it just makes ya think what's the point of succeeding. Bank balance smank balance, real shame.
Quote from: ciggiesnbeer on July 26, 2014, 01:57:09 AMImagine how livid we would be if our team had been gutted like theirs? Yes absolutely. I was reading an article earlier saying Luke Chambers to Arsenal now. This is quite an horrific " rape and pillage " however they do get left with a nice bank balance.
Imagine how livid we would be if our team had been gutted like theirs?
Quote from: RussellC on July 23, 2014, 03:47:18 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 23, 2014, 03:19:40 PMQuote from: RussellC on July 23, 2014, 03:16:34 PMI think probably not letting him get into the last year of his contract at all would have been the sensible thing to do.And as was said last week, at which point during his previous two injury-plagued, inconsistent years would you have offered him the contract he now deserves?Having watched Villa with and without him in the side last season I'd have offered him a contract extension without any hesitation. He played 32 games for us last season, he was hardly awol. Surely it was clear that we were a much better side with him in it and therefore a contract extension was a no-brainer?From last week in case you missed it. Hopefully save us all several million inconvenienced electrons having the same circular argument.Quote from: paul_e on July 20, 2014, 06:32:44 PMQuote from: old man villa fan on July 20, 2014, 06:05:18 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on July 20, 2014, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: villan from luton on July 20, 2014, 12:22:34 AMTrouble is, we have fecked up by letting his contract wind down, great business not.When we signed the first batch of Lambert's signings, there was general approval of only signing them up on 3 year contracts so that se didn't get stitched with unwanted players with 2-3 years left on long contracts as with a the likes of Beye.After his first season, where he'd looked off the pace and spent a large chunk of the season injured, he had done nothing to justify a new contract.At the point where we could have sensibly offered a new contract during the course of last season he was injured again, casting further doubts on his long term fitness.Once we approached the end of the season there was never going to be any contact negotiations, first we were too busy worrying about survival (again), followed by Vlaar departing for Brazil.He's now on a well earned holiday and the earliest anything can happen is on his return.When would you have offered a new contract?Commonsense v commenting with the clarity of hindsight. I'm with you, surely the time to negotiate on a 3 year contract is at the end of year 2 unless it is a young player that you have picked up and want to tie them down (as much as you can these days). Vlaar's performances in the world cup possibly came at the wrong time for us.Not quite, the time to look to tie down players like Delph and Vlaar was March/April, unfortunately we were occupied by suspending our assistant manager and 'head of football operations' and trying to reach the end of the season safely. It's fairly easy to slag the club for not sorting it before the world cup but we really do have a reasonable excuse for things stretching out a little this year, it's just unfortunate that 1 of the players involved had a better world cup than anyone would've imagined.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 23, 2014, 03:19:40 PMQuote from: RussellC on July 23, 2014, 03:16:34 PMI think probably not letting him get into the last year of his contract at all would have been the sensible thing to do.And as was said last week, at which point during his previous two injury-plagued, inconsistent years would you have offered him the contract he now deserves?Having watched Villa with and without him in the side last season I'd have offered him a contract extension without any hesitation. He played 32 games for us last season, he was hardly awol. Surely it was clear that we were a much better side with him in it and therefore a contract extension was a no-brainer?
Quote from: RussellC on July 23, 2014, 03:16:34 PMI think probably not letting him get into the last year of his contract at all would have been the sensible thing to do.And as was said last week, at which point during his previous two injury-plagued, inconsistent years would you have offered him the contract he now deserves?
I think probably not letting him get into the last year of his contract at all would have been the sensible thing to do.
Quote from: old man villa fan on July 20, 2014, 06:05:18 PMQuote from: Villa in Denmark on July 20, 2014, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: villan from luton on July 20, 2014, 12:22:34 AMTrouble is, we have fecked up by letting his contract wind down, great business not.When we signed the first batch of Lambert's signings, there was general approval of only signing them up on 3 year contracts so that se didn't get stitched with unwanted players with 2-3 years left on long contracts as with a the likes of Beye.After his first season, where he'd looked off the pace and spent a large chunk of the season injured, he had done nothing to justify a new contract.At the point where we could have sensibly offered a new contract during the course of last season he was injured again, casting further doubts on his long term fitness.Once we approached the end of the season there was never going to be any contact negotiations, first we were too busy worrying about survival (again), followed by Vlaar departing for Brazil.He's now on a well earned holiday and the earliest anything can happen is on his return.When would you have offered a new contract?Commonsense v commenting with the clarity of hindsight. I'm with you, surely the time to negotiate on a 3 year contract is at the end of year 2 unless it is a young player that you have picked up and want to tie them down (as much as you can these days). Vlaar's performances in the world cup possibly came at the wrong time for us.Not quite, the time to look to tie down players like Delph and Vlaar was March/April, unfortunately we were occupied by suspending our assistant manager and 'head of football operations' and trying to reach the end of the season safely. It's fairly easy to slag the club for not sorting it before the world cup but we really do have a reasonable excuse for things stretching out a little this year, it's just unfortunate that 1 of the players involved had a better world cup than anyone would've imagined.
Quote from: Villa in Denmark on July 20, 2014, 12:59:39 AMQuote from: villan from luton on July 20, 2014, 12:22:34 AMTrouble is, we have fecked up by letting his contract wind down, great business not.When we signed the first batch of Lambert's signings, there was general approval of only signing them up on 3 year contracts so that se didn't get stitched with unwanted players with 2-3 years left on long contracts as with a the likes of Beye.After his first season, where he'd looked off the pace and spent a large chunk of the season injured, he had done nothing to justify a new contract.At the point where we could have sensibly offered a new contract during the course of last season he was injured again, casting further doubts on his long term fitness.Once we approached the end of the season there was never going to be any contact negotiations, first we were too busy worrying about survival (again), followed by Vlaar departing for Brazil.He's now on a well earned holiday and the earliest anything can happen is on his return.When would you have offered a new contract?Commonsense v commenting with the clarity of hindsight. I'm with you, surely the time to negotiate on a 3 year contract is at the end of year 2 unless it is a young player that you have picked up and want to tie them down (as much as you can these days). Vlaar's performances in the world cup possibly came at the wrong time for us.
Quote from: villan from luton on July 20, 2014, 12:22:34 AMTrouble is, we have fecked up by letting his contract wind down, great business not.When we signed the first batch of Lambert's signings, there was general approval of only signing them up on 3 year contracts so that se didn't get stitched with unwanted players with 2-3 years left on long contracts as with a the likes of Beye.After his first season, where he'd looked off the pace and spent a large chunk of the season injured, he had done nothing to justify a new contract.At the point where we could have sensibly offered a new contract during the course of last season he was injured again, casting further doubts on his long term fitness.Once we approached the end of the season there was never going to be any contact negotiations, first we were too busy worrying about survival (again), followed by Vlaar departing for Brazil.He's now on a well earned holiday and the earliest anything can happen is on his return.When would you have offered a new contract?
Trouble is, we have fecked up by letting his contract wind down, great business not.
Who's job is it to ensure instances such as this do not happen ie. club captain entering final year of contract with no offer of a new deal ? Owner ? CEO ? Manager ? Commercial director ? The club is an absolute joke right now !
Do you really believe that we will let Fabian Delph just walk away from the club for nothing? I mean do you honestly believe that?
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 26, 2014, 03:02:15 PMDo you really believe that we will let Fabian Delph just walk away from the club for nothing? I mean do you honestly believe that? To be fair, if he decides to do that - ie see out the final year of his contract - we can't stop him from doing it. Unless, of course, we sell him.
Vlaar will not be going to Southampton. It just won't happen.
Well why aren't we talking to him now, TV?
Nursey reckons Southampton will bid for Vlaar. I've never been a massive fan of Vlaar but to lose our best centreback to a club the size of them is simply out of the question. I'd expect us to laugh the bid off but does Lerner really care that much these days??
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