collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Posts

Re: John McGinn by kippaxvilla2
[Today at 03:01:08 PM]


Re: John McGinn by Rory
[Today at 02:59:56 PM]


Re: John McGinn by Somniloquism
[Today at 02:58:55 PM]


Re: Pre season 2025 by Somniloquism
[Today at 02:57:50 PM]


Re: John McGinn by Clampy
[Today at 02:56:31 PM]


Re: Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by cdbearsfan
[Today at 02:55:46 PM]


Re: Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by Stu82
[Today at 02:54:16 PM]


Re: Pre season 2025 by VillaTim
[Today at 02:51:23 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Concrete Ron  (Read 431780 times)

Offline saunders_heroes

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15650
  • GM : 28.02.2026
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #600 on: July 19, 2014, 11:34:51 AM »
We should just offer him a salary he deserves. Circa £80k a week and a 3 year extension. That's still probably going to pay for itself.

I'd definitely offer him an extension but i'm not sure about 80k a week. Besides, once you pay one player that kind of money, then others will want it as well.

And he's not worth £80k per week based on the performances he's given to the Villa team over the last 2 seasons. It seems we'd be rewarding him for his international performances rather than his club ones.

Offline peter w

  • Member
  • Posts: 35469
  • Location: Istanbul
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #601 on: July 19, 2014, 12:09:13 PM »
The problem with going that high is that a lot of the better players, and good players that you want to sign, may insist with parity with the highest earner(s). If we were to pay something like it'd be a sign that we're likely to have a new owner with serious money coming in, mind.

Offline taylorsworkrate

  • Member
  • Posts: 7944
  • Location: Summer Lovin Torture Party
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #602 on: July 19, 2014, 12:12:42 PM »
We should just offer him a salary he deserves. Circa £80k a week and a 3 year extension. That's still probably going to pay for itself.

I'd definitely offer him an extension but i'm not sure about 80k a week. Besides, once you pay one player that kind of money, then others will want it as well.

And he's not worth £80k per week based on the performances he's given to the Villa team over the last 2 seasons. It seems we'd be rewarding him for his international performances rather than his club ones.

Yep

Offline Pete3206

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 17927
  • Location: Erdington
  • GM : PCM
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #603 on: July 19, 2014, 01:01:42 PM »
We should just offer him a salary he deserves. Circa £80k a week and a 3 year extension. That's still probably going to pay for itself.

That would be madness

Offline Louzie0

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15844
  • Location: wrangling jellied eels in the Albert Dock
  • UTV: I’m retired, hurrah!
  • GM : 04.03.2026
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #604 on: July 19, 2014, 01:11:25 PM »
If we were trying to buy him from some other club, don't you think we would be offering pay based on the most recent performances and promising to provide better players around him than he has had, to guarantee continued success at club level?

As it is, we already have him and I think some increase to acknowledge his quality and performance this summer would act as incentive to stay, as well as pointing to the return of Okore and acquisition of Senderos (and Richardson, and Cole) as indications of intent to beef up the Squad around him.

Offline taylorsworkrate

  • Member
  • Posts: 7944
  • Location: Summer Lovin Torture Party
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #605 on: July 19, 2014, 01:17:11 PM »
If we were trying to buy him from some other club, don't you think we would be offering pay based on the most recent performances and promising to provide better players around him than he has had, to guarantee continued success at club level?

As it is, we already have him and I think some increase to acknowledge his quality and performance this summer would act as incentive to stay, as well as pointing to the return of Okore and acquisition of Senderos (and Richardson, and Cole) as indications of intent to beef up the Squad around him.

We can't promise that though. Given the signings we've made so far, I don't think he'll be overly impressed.

Offline Louzie0

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 15844
  • Location: wrangling jellied eels in the Albert Dock
  • UTV: I’m retired, hurrah!
  • GM : 04.03.2026
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #606 on: July 19, 2014, 01:31:04 PM »
I suppose it comes down to how much he has been told about future plans and ambition for the club, his own ambition and what motivates him. The defence pool available looks better to me than it did, last season. (Assuming no long term injuries, as always.) The captaincy seems to have been something he values, perhaps more than sitting on somebody else's bench, for example.

I'd still offer him a rise, though!
« Last Edit: July 19, 2014, 01:34:16 PM by Louzie0 »

Offline mrastonvilla

  • Member
  • Posts: 620
  • Location: York
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #607 on: July 19, 2014, 02:23:57 PM »
I think I would offer him a rise in wages and incentives based upon appearances. Offering massive wages to someone with his injury record and tendency to miss a couple of months each season wouldn't be the best idea.

Offline Stu

  • Member
  • Posts: 14005
  • GM : 09.04.2021
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #608 on: July 19, 2014, 02:49:59 PM »
Paul McGrath reckons Man U should be considering Vlaar - thanks, Paul: Ron Vlaar is the answer to Manchester United's defensive problems - Paul McGrath

He's a 'Red Devils' legend apparently.

Offline peter w

  • Member
  • Posts: 35469
  • Location: Istanbul
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #609 on: July 19, 2014, 03:56:57 PM »
Except he didn't say that they should be considering but that he would be on a list. that in itself is obvious.

Offline Stu

  • Member
  • Posts: 14005
  • GM : 09.04.2021
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #610 on: July 19, 2014, 05:43:43 PM »
Except he didn't say that they should be considering but that he would be on a list. that in itself is obvious.

A list of potential signings.

So should be considered in Paul's opinion.

Offline silhillvilla

  • Member
  • Posts: 12681
  • GM : Dec, 2014
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #611 on: July 19, 2014, 05:45:48 PM »
I'd pay him what his agent wants (within reason) and make public we've given him a new deal and that's it. Do footballers deals have to be made public ?

Offline Mortimer's Bear

  • Member
  • Posts: 10966
  • Location: Kingsbury
  • GM : 30.05.2019
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #612 on: July 19, 2014, 05:48:03 PM »
To be fair he was shocking at times last season, the Premier League is too fast for him in my opinion.

There's no denying he's had a fine WC though.

Offline Gregorys Boy

  • Member
  • Posts: 4812
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #613 on: July 19, 2014, 05:49:37 PM »
Paul McGrath reckons Man U should be considering Vlaar - thanks, Paul: Ron Vlaar is the answer to Manchester United's defensive problems - Paul McGrath

He's a 'Red Devils' legend apparently.

I'd like to know when he went from being a Villa legend to a Man Utd legend?  Did far more for us...

Offline timeoutbigbar

  • Member
  • Posts: 2324
  • Age: 38
  • Location: Cheltenham
Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #614 on: July 19, 2014, 06:09:57 PM »
I thought Vlaar looked absolute class at times for us last season- a man amongst boys- didnt even see too many of his WC performances. I like the fact that he almost always wins his duels, no matter who against, always makes the block, the tackle. Not many get the better of him. I think a back four of him, Hutton (yep! Like the solidity he gives...), Okore and Richardson would be a massive improvement on what we have seen in recent years.

Have to think that if Man utd come in for him he will be gone though.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal