Quote from: andyh on March 11, 2013, 11:38:29 AMFor me, Vlaar is an OK player.He is certainly not brilliant, but he is not shit, he is ok.But I think its clear that we do look better when he is in the team.My point being we don't need world beaters to make this team better, just the addition of some quality and experience.If we survive this year, then just 2 or 3 players of quality and experience, in the right positions, and we could just be ok next year. I think that pretty much sums it up for me, he's been OK and might improve with a run free from injuries. The haste with which some people write players off is only matched by the speed others over hype some others. He's twice the player Cuellar is, for example.
For me, Vlaar is an OK player.He is certainly not brilliant, but he is not shit, he is ok.But I think its clear that we do look better when he is in the team.My point being we don't need world beaters to make this team better, just the addition of some quality and experience.If we survive this year, then just 2 or 3 players of quality and experience, in the right positions, and we could just be ok next year.
I think we'll see a much tougher Concrete Ron next season, especially once he has the summer off to recuperate after his injuries.
A fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power .....
Quote from: WALTERS WARRIORS on March 12, 2013, 09:36:09 PMA fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power ..... We've got more chance of fielding a giant, six legged unicorn.
Quote from: Chris Smith on March 11, 2013, 11:46:35 AMQuote from: andyh on March 11, 2013, 11:38:29 AMFor me, Vlaar is an OK player.He is certainly not brilliant, but he is not shit, he is ok.But I think its clear that we do look better when he is in the team.My point being we don't need world beaters to make this team better, just the addition of some quality and experience.If we survive this year, then just 2 or 3 players of quality and experience, in the right positions, and we could just be ok next year. I think that pretty much sums it up for me, he's been OK and might improve with a run free from injuries. The haste with which some people write players off is only matched by the speed others over hype some others. He's twice the player Cuellar is, for example.How many times the player Collins was out of interest?
The same Collins that pulled a rick in every game? The same Collins thats struggling to keep any sort of a place in West Hams squad? The same Collins that was a disruptive element in our team and squad? Vlaar every day for me
Quote from: MoetVillan on March 13, 2013, 03:23:40 PMThe same Collins that pulled a rick in every game? The same Collins thats struggling to keep any sort of a place in West Hams squad? The same Collins that was a disruptive element in our team and squad? Vlaar every day for meNo, the Collins, that with Dunne, was part of our strongest defence in recent years and if you re-read the post you'll see I said the same as you about Vlaar.