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Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #240 on: March 11, 2013, 10:48:18 PM »
For me, Vlaar is an OK player.
He is certainly not brilliant, but he is not shit, he is ok.
But I think its clear that we do look better when he is in the team.
My point being we don't need world beaters to make this team better, just the addition of some quality and experience.

If we survive this year, then just 2 or 3 players of quality and experience, in the right positions, and we could just be ok next year.   
 

I think that pretty much sums it up for me, he's been OK and might improve with a run free from injuries. The haste with which some people write players off is only matched by the speed others over hype some others. He's twice the player Cuellar is, for example.

How many times the player Collins was out of interest?

Offline maidstonevillain

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #241 on: March 11, 2013, 10:51:36 PM »
I think we'll see a much tougher Concrete Ron next season, especially once he has the summer off to recuperate after his injuries.

Reinforced Concrete Ron.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #242 on: March 11, 2013, 10:52:22 PM »
Still worth playing if only for his leadership and character. I would still prefer him paired with Baker though as I don't see any sort of partnership/understanding between him and Clark. If we stay up, I hope one of the first things we do is spend a bit on a physical and pacy CB.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #243 on: March 12, 2013, 08:58:18 PM »
The thing I like most about Vlaar is that he's not Richard Dunne.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #244 on: March 12, 2013, 09:36:09 PM »
A fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power .....



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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #245 on: March 12, 2013, 09:44:52 PM »
A fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power .....




You're not going to get that, though. Even if Dunne returned to training tomorrow, how long would it take for him to be match fit?

Probably about 2015 going on past evidence.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #246 on: March 12, 2013, 09:49:31 PM »
A fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power .....




We've got more chance of fielding a giant, six legged unicorn than a fit Richard Dunne.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #247 on: March 13, 2013, 02:56:17 PM »
A fit Richard Dunne over Vlaar for this final few games would be my choice. Vlaar is not good enough in the air to be a top class CB. Baker has better aerial power .....




We've got more chance of fielding a giant, six legged unicorn.

I'd have one of those over Clark

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #248 on: March 13, 2013, 03:05:33 PM »
For me, Vlaar is an OK player.
He is certainly not brilliant, but he is not shit, he is ok.
But I think its clear that we do look better when he is in the team.
My point being we don't need world beaters to make this team better, just the addition of some quality and experience.

If we survive this year, then just 2 or 3 players of quality and experience, in the right positions, and we could just be ok next year.   
 

I think that pretty much sums it up for me, he's been OK and might improve with a run free from injuries. The haste with which some people write players off is only matched by the speed others over hype some others. He's twice the player Cuellar is, for example.

How many times the player Collins was out of interest?

It's a figure of speech but I'd take Collins over Cuellar and Vlaar over either in our current setup.

Offline MoetVillan

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #249 on: March 13, 2013, 03:23:40 PM »
The same Collins that pulled a rick in every game?  The same Collins thats struggling to keep any sort of a place in West Hams squad?  The same Collins that was a disruptive element in our team and squad? Vlaar every day for me

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #250 on: March 13, 2013, 03:26:58 PM »
Vlaar isn't too bad, he's easily good enough at least midtable Premier League.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #251 on: March 13, 2013, 03:27:54 PM »
The same Collins that pulled a rick in every game?  The same Collins thats struggling to keep any sort of a place in West Hams squad?  The same Collins that was a disruptive element in our team and squad? Vlaar every day for me

No, the Collins, that with Dunne, was part of our strongest defence in recent years and if you re-read the post you'll see I said the same as you about Vlaar.

Offline neo_Villan

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #252 on: March 13, 2013, 03:30:55 PM »
The same Collins that pulled a rick in every game?  The same Collins thats struggling to keep any sort of a place in West Hams squad?  The same Collins that was a disruptive element in our team and squad? Vlaar every day for me

No, the Collins, that with Dunne, was part of our strongest defence in recent years and if you re-read the post you'll see I said the same as you about Vlaar.
Shame they couldn't be bothered to play for any manager other then MON. At least Vlaar comes across as a proper professional.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #253 on: March 13, 2013, 09:38:28 PM »
I we can get through this season and avoided the dreaded 'R' I think  Vlaar will do OK for us. We still need some more experience back-up/alternative options in that position though but think that discussion has probably been done to death.

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Re: Concrete Ron
« Reply #254 on: March 13, 2013, 10:32:40 PM »
 I want him back in if he's fit for Sat. His experience will be needed.

Anyone know if he will be fit, if not, when?

 


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