Barry "Messi" Bannan - again

[VinnieChase84]

Dion Dublin

[Mister E]

I was there at Twickenham on the day that Erica strutted her stuff. I'd just turned 12, so I was beginning to be able to appreciate the enormity of the situation.

So was I but at 23 I fully appreciated the  size of the task.

[Mister E]

Steve Smith
Harry Hampton
Dicky Dorsett
Billy Baxter

[Michel Sibble]

The Blackburn deal has apparently broken down, all parties now not speaking to each other.

Wages, I suspect.

[sonlyme]

Were the Gowans thingies for the Japanese market?  Or were they made by the same fine Birmingham company who produced the Ashley Giles 'King of Spain' mugs?

Given the recent nature of this thread - it is very hard to see beyond the double D as far as samey samey goes.

If only for the headbutt.

No picture posting intended.

[VinnieChase84]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

[MoetVillan]

Im not sticking up for their wages, but if they have mortgages for a house that were based on them being on x amount for z years, im not surprised they are a little nervous about taking a paycut.  I work my own finances out, and know its bloody tight with mortgage and childcare, so if my boss said "Sorry mate, do you fancy working somewhere else for less", id be a bit concerned.  Yeah they are on a lot of money, but for a short window of time, and i can only imagine that they dont choose a ford focus and a small house (probably thats their mistake)

[supertom]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

This.
The true test of character in the bomb squad, as almost all of them to a man will struggle to earn what they are here, will be whether they take a pay cut to play the game they apparently love. Looking at the bombers the only person I'd expect to be willing to take a pay drop would be Shay Given. I think the others would quite happily see out their deals.

[dave.woodhall]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

It's a job, nothing more. Regardless of the figures you're not going to take a pay cut if you don't have to.

[Concrete John]

Even if you don't need the extra money to live off, the fact is if you are effectively giving money away, so that moving costs £0.5m or whatever, you are naturally going to be relectant to do it.

[john e]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

It's a job, nothing more. Regardless of the figures you're not going to take a pay cut if you don't have to.

then why do they all bleat on about 'I only want to play football' if its a lie and its only a job,
 I don't wake up in the morning and say I only want to sell trucks,

if we won the lottery most of us would give up our jobs, we might find something else to do, but working for someone else would be a thing of the past,
would footballers give up playing the game if they won the euro millions and pocketed 85 mill, maybe not because football is a brilliant thing to do whether your paid or not

its not just a job, playing in front of big crowds must be fantastic, it cant be compared to working in IT or something, its more than just a job

if you are right in what your saying, then they are all just big fat fibbers,
 thier life isn't about playing the game, its about sitting on their arse if needs be because money is more important than them playing a game of football, which is at odds to what they say most of the time

if they said my contract is far more important to me than actually playing the game, then we would know where we stand,
but they don't they say that football is all they want to do, which according to you is a nonsense

[dave.woodhall]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

It's a job, nothing more. Regardless of the figures you're not going to take a pay cut if you don't have to.

then why do they all bleat on about 'I only want to play football' if its a lie and its only a job,
 I don't wake up in the morning and say I only want to sell trucks,

if we won the lottery most of us would give up our jobs, we might find something else to do, but working for someone else would be a thing of the past,
would footballers give up playing the game if they won the euro millions and pocketed 85 mill, maybe not because football is a brilliant thing to do whether your paid or not

its not just a job, playing in front of big crowds must be fantastic, it cant be compared to working in IT or something, its more than just a job

if you are right in what your saying, then they are all just big fat fibbers,
 thier life isn't about playing the game, its about sitting on their arse if needs be because money is more important than them playing a game of football, which is at odds to what they say most of the time

if they said my contract is far more important to me than actually playing the game, then we would know where we stand,
but they don't they say that football is all they want to do, which according to you is a nonsense

If you do anything day in, day out it's a job and unless you're very lucky the novelty soon wears off. Similarly, very few people would change jobs for a pay cut and you're woefully naive if you think footballers are any different. Then again, I suppose some people think players kiss the badge because they love their club.

[TimTheVillain]

Bannan was and never will be a good Prem player.,

The game passes him by; his passing is spurious; his corners dreadful.

Not good enough, get as much as we can !

[john e]

I've seen quite a few people saying they don't blame the 'bomb squad' for not wanting to take paycuts to move on as 'we wouldn't want to either' . I'm sorry that's BS and not relative at all. We can't compare the money they make to the money us mere mortals make and justify their decisions.
Take exams for us, say we were on 40k a year and didn't want to take a job at 30k a year. That's understandable as we are so much nearer the breadline than these 'stars' are! On 30k a year after tax were bringing in aprox 1800-2k a month. The added £500 a month would make a world of difference to us.
Now onto footballers. Your on 17k a week, that's £816,000 a year! You will see about half of that so let's say £400k.
Now your offered better job satisfaction (as you'd be playing the sport you claim to love) at 12k a week. That's still £576000 a year and you'd see aprox £300k from that. My long point being is that to them what's an extra 5k a week? What till that bring to their life's that they cannot already have on the money they are on? Is it going to feed their family more? No. Is it going to be spent on excess and show pony shit? Yes!
Simply put, these folk have clearly forgotten why they kicked a ball
In the first place. It was down to passion and love for the sport. Now they would rather not play the game but have an extra Tag watch per month.

It's a job, nothing more. Regardless of the figures you're not going to take a pay cut if you don't have to.

then why do they all bleat on about 'I only want to play football' if its a lie and its only a job,
 I don't wake up in the morning and say I only want to sell trucks,

if we won the lottery most of us would give up our jobs, we might find something else to do, but working for someone else would be a thing of the past,
would footballers give up playing the game if they won the euro millions and pocketed 85 mill, maybe not because football is a brilliant thing to do whether your paid or not

its not just a job, playing in front of big crowds must be fantastic, it cant be compared to working in IT or something, its more than just a job

if you are right in what your saying, then they are all just big fat fibbers,
 thier life isn't about playing the game, its about sitting on their arse if needs be because money is more important than them playing a game of football, which is at odds to what they say most of the time

if they said my contract is far more important to me than actually playing the game, then we would know where we stand,
but they don't they say that football is all they want to do, which according to you is a nonsense

If you do anything day in, day out it's a job and unless you're very lucky the novelty soon wears off. Similarly, very few people would change jobs for a pay cut and you're woefully naive if you think footballers are any different. Then again, I suppose some people think players kiss the badge because they love their club.

maybe I am naïve,
 but I just don't think you can compare playing football in front of thousands of adoring fans to working in an office or stacking shop shelves
I suppose you are right in that anything becomes normal if its done so often,

however thousands of people play football every week for no money, just for the love of the game,
to my knowledge people don't volunteer to go in to work for nothing, because in general we rather not
apart from a few vocational jobs ie teaching, nursing etc most people would stop work tomorrow if they could

I'm not saying your wrong or arguing against you really, but I just don't get the 'its only a job'  like everyones elses job,
 its not is it, its a totally different way of earning a living like in the entertainment industry, a football career lasts for a few years, why would more money in the bank be more important than a good career to look back on, I just don't get it

[Dave]

a football career lasts for a few years, why would more money in the bank be more important than a good career to look back on, I just don't get it

Maybe because it only lasts a few years (with limited options at the end of it) it's why writing off a couple of hundred thousand pounds just to play a few more games of football isn't really something that appeals to them.