Boxing Thread 2013.

[FrankyH]

Don Broadhurst's due to fight at the Holte Suite tonight.

Anyone know how he got on ?

Won on points.

Nice one , thanks.

[paul_e]

The ref wouldn't have stopped it that early if it was the other way round.

In your opinion, Froch was never in a condition where stopping it would be considered, in my opinion Groves clearly was and I really don't think he'd have made the end of the round (I think there was about a minute to go does that sound right)?

Whatever you say, you will never convince me that it wasn't a horrendously early stoppage, and I say that even though I had money on it.

I t was early, I've said as much, I don't think it was horrendously early.  As said last night, I genuinely don't think Groves would've finished the round, I think Froch is as much a victim as Groves as well, if it had been allowed to go on a little the reality is that Froch would be able to say that the first time he got on top he totally blew him away and knocked him out and you wouldn't have people calling it a fix.

[taylorsworkrate]

Froch would not have been stopped if he was in Grove's condition in the ninth. Not a chance.

[eastie]

Froch would not have been stopped if he was in Grove's condition in the ninth. Not a chance.

Agreed, it was a world title fight and groves was ahead on all cards - he should have been given the chance to carry on - froch may well have finished him off but groves had earned the right to continue - he wasn't down and out .

[dave.woodhall]

www.boxingforum24.com has 73 separate threads started after the fight. Their mods must be even lazier than we are.

[bertlambshank]

Since the Hearn's signed their big contract with Sky their boxers have I would guess 90% of the 'soft decision's have gone their way.
Groves was probably going to lose,but I am getting a bit sick of Eddie Hearn's looking looking like he has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar,at the end of fights.

[dave.woodhall]

It would be very interesting to look back at the last three or four years of Sky fights and see how many times the main event has ended in controversy - either a premature stoppage, downright robbery or ridiculously wide scoring in a tight fight - and compare it with what happens on BoxNation or terrestrial.

[bertlambshank]

Only having one promoter for fights on Sky can't help.
The Hearn's are struggling to make fights has it is.

[Ron Manager]

Just watched the whole fight on U Tube and was very surprised the referee stopped it at that point. In fact i'm shocked.
As a previous poster has observed If that had been Froch in no way would it have been stopped so quickly.

[paul_e]

As I've said before, watch the way Groves falls into the ref as it's being stopped, he was gone as far as I'm concerned, the ref shouldn't have stopped it by any means but I think Froch would've won it if it hadn't been stopped.  Groves was looking good whilst he was quicker than Froch, but in the 8th and 9th you could see the pace of it was getting to him and he slowed down quite a bit, Froch saw it as well, which is why he started going heavy at him.  Even if Groves had got to the bell there's no chance he was lasting another 3 rounds after that.  Most people thought Groves would start well and Froch would take over later in the fight, with round 5 being the common choice, it took a bit longer and Groves started better than anyone expected but once Froch was still going after 7-8 he was always going to start to dominate.

[john e]

As I've said before, watch the way Groves falls into the ref as it's being stopped, he was gone as far as I'm concerned, the ref shouldn't have stopped it by any means but I think Froch would've won it if it hadn't been stopped.  Groves was looking good whilst he was quicker than Froch, but in the 8th and 9th you could see the pace of it was getting to him and he slowed down quite a bit, Froch saw it as well, which is why he started going heavy at him.  Even if Groves had got to the bell there's no chance he was lasting another 3 rounds after that.  Most people thought Groves would start well and Froch would take over later in the fight, with round 5 being the common choice, it took a bit longer and Groves started better than anyone expected but once Froch was still going after 7-8 he was always going to start to dominate.

You might be right,
 but boxing fights shouldn't be won on what we think would have happened or which way it probably could have gone, they are won on what actually happens in the ring

No one would have had a problem with that fight being stopped if Goves was well behind on points and he was put out of his misery, but he ahead, by as much as 5 on one judges card

I listened to it on the radio, but when I saw the footage yesterday, I was quite shocked the ref jumped in at that stage, he did neither boxer any favours

[taylorsworkrate]

As I've said before, watch the way Groves falls into the ref as it's being stopped, he was gone as far as I'm concerned, the ref shouldn't have stopped it by any means but I think Froch would've won it if it hadn't been stopped.  Groves was looking good whilst he was quicker than Froch, but in the 8th and 9th you could see the pace of it was getting to him and he slowed down quite a bit, Froch saw it as well, which is why he started going heavy at him.  Even if Groves had got to the bell there's no chance he was lasting another 3 rounds after that.  Most people thought Groves would start well and Froch would take over later in the fight, with round 5 being the common choice, it took a bit longer and Groves started better than anyone expected but once Froch was still going after 7-8 he was always going to start to dominate.

I think it's more a case of the referee grabbing Groves in a headlock, rather than him falling into him. What the hell was that about? It was almost as if the ref was saying "Go on Carl, give him a cheeky dig in the ribs while i'm holding him"

The more I look at it, the worse it gets. I struggle to recall a stoppage as flimsy as this one

[bertlambshank]

As I've said before, watch the way Groves falls into the ref as it's being stopped, he was gone as far as I'm concerned, the ref shouldn't have stopped it by any means but I think Froch would've won it if it hadn't been stopped.  Groves was looking good whilst he was quicker than Froch, but in the 8th and 9th you could see the pace of it was getting to him and he slowed down quite a bit, Froch saw it as well, which is why he started going heavy at him.  Even if Groves had got to the bell there's no chance he was lasting another 3 rounds after that.  Most people thought Groves would start well and Froch would take over later in the fight, with round 5 being the common choice, it took a bit longer and Groves started better than anyone expected but once Froch was still going after 7-8 he was always going to start to dominate.

He wasn't gone at the stage the ref stopped the fight.The ref let Froch get away with so much during the fight you could almost see what was coming.

[john e]

As I've said before, watch the way Groves falls into the ref as it's being stopped, he was gone as far as I'm concerned, the ref shouldn't have stopped it by any means but I think Froch would've won it if it hadn't been stopped.  Groves was looking good whilst he was quicker than Froch, but in the 8th and 9th you could see the pace of it was getting to him and he slowed down quite a bit, Froch saw it as well, which is why he started going heavy at him.  Even if Groves had got to the bell there's no chance he was lasting another 3 rounds after that.  Most people thought Groves would start well and Froch would take over later in the fight, with round 5 being the common choice, it took a bit longer and Groves started better than anyone expected but once Froch was still going after 7-8 he was always going to start to dominate.

I think it's more a case of the referee grabbing Groves in a headlock, rather than him falling into him. What the hell was that about? It was almost as if the ref was saying "Go on Carl, give him a cheeky dig in the ribs while i'm holding him"

The more I look at it, the worse it gets. I struggle to recall a stoppage as flimsy as this one

yep I agree,
 I was expecting it to be a  50/50 shout by the ref, but when I saw it for the first time it looks bad, and like you say the more you see it it doesn't get any better, there is just no reason to stop the fight at that stage

[paul_e]

Again, I agree he stopped it too early, my opinion is he stopped it 3-4 punches sooner than it would've ended naturally, hence why I'm not as outraged as most people.  If you believe he'd have made it to the end of the round then you can be indignant on behalf of Groves, if not your sympathy should be with Froch who is being made a bit of a villain in this by many and his victory is being heavily questioned by most.