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Offline Yossarian

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #705 on: January 26, 2013, 03:24:12 PM »
is it coincidental that randy has pulled back on spending since the man city folk turned up?

I've always thought this but it demonstrates pretty poor planning if true.  It's a little foolish to predicate your whole plan on no more rich kids turning up to the party.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #706 on: January 26, 2013, 08:18:42 PM »
Nice Article from the Guardian

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If Doug Ellis were still in charge, it is fair to say we know what would have happened by now. The knock on Paul Lambert's door would have come the morning after the night before. And when I say the night before, I mean the Bradford match rather than the ignominy that followed at Millwall. Men of considerable wealth do not tend to appreciate being shown up in public. The lawyers would have been notified. Then Lambert would have been escorted to the exit, his belongings sent on in a Jiffy bag.

Unintentional apparently, but the Birmingham Post certainly rubbed a motorway gritter's worth of salt into a very open wound when it announced Randy Lerner was fifth in the newspaper's annual rich list last Wednesday. No doubt Aston Villa's supporters were thrilled to learn that the club's increasingly elusive owner had added another £300m to his fortune, taking his personal worth to £1.1bn, as they tried to make sense of how Bradford City, from the puddles and potholes of League Two, had left them on their knees.

It does raise the question about whether Lerner should still count as an honorary Brummie when he has pretty much been running Villa by remote control from his place in Manhattan and it is difficult to find anyone who can be sure when he next intends to pay us a visit.

He was not at Millwall on Friday for the latest ordeal in a season of basic ineptitude that is threatening to leave England's second city, as they still like to call themselves, without a top-division team for the first time in a quarter of a century. He was not at Villa Park to see the meltdown against Bradford and the incongruous sight of a fourth division team celebrating in front of a stand where the two tiers are divided by a banner carrying Brian Moore's commentary from the 1982 European Cup final: "Shaw … Williams prepared to venture down the left. There's a good ball. Played in for Tony Morley. Oh, it must be! And it is! Peter Withe!"

History now. Memories of another century.

Ordinarily, Villa's supporters might be able to take some form of malicious pleasure about the crisis that has taken hold of Birmingham City now their owner, Carson Yeung, has had his assets frozen ahead of his April trial in Hong Kong for his alleged part in a money-laundering venture.

Birmingham's problems navigating a way from one payday to the next certainly put Villa's into context. The entire squad at St Andrew's is for sale, at discount prices, before Thursday's transfer deadline. The club turned down a £6m bid from Southampton for Jack Butland last summer because they valued him at twice that amount. Now they would accept £2.5m. Nineteen players are out of contract at the end of the season. A 20th, Paul Robinson, becomes a free agent today. All but three of their 29 signings since dropping out of the Premier League in 2011 have been freebies, loans or short-term arrangements. It is a tangled mess that could very easily lead them to the weed-strewn car parks of League One next season.

Villa, though, are in no position for schadenfreude. The whole of football is rubbernecking in their direction now. Their manager is not wearing the stress well. The crowd are restless, bordering on mutiny but holding back for now. All the signs are in place of a relegation waiting to happen and this, remember, is no longer the era of the yo-yo club. The string has snapped if you look at Bolton, Blackburn and Wolves, for example. All relegated last season, all now in the lower half of the Championship.

More than anything, there is this sense that Lerner has let his interest in the club slide since those early days when he talked such a good game and demonstrated his commitment by having the rampant lion, taken from the club crest, tattooed below his sock-line.

His last appearance was the 3-0 home defeat to Wigan four days after Christmas. Nobody sees Lerner having a quiet pint in the Holte pub these days. The club have become secretive about his scheduling, just like Chelsea when Roman Abramovich is going through one of his more elusive spells. Nobody seems to know if Lerner will be at Villa Park on Wednesday, when Newcastle's visit brings together two sides straying dangerously close to full-on collapse.

Presumably he would contest any allegations of losing interest and, to give him his due, there had been a £200m outlay before he stopped coming to the table and brought in a new strategy built to a large degree on developing academy players.

He might also point out the overall wage bill in the 2010-11 season was £25m higher than Everton's and that there are only three clubs – Manchester City, Chelsea and Stoke – above Villa in the transfer table of net spend over the past five years.

Yet Villa have made their worst start to a season in 43 years and it has been clear ever since that, if he was indeed still listening, a message needed to be absorbed before the damage reached the stage when it started to look irreparable. As it stands, four days away from the transfer window clanking shut, we might already have reached that point. Who, seriously, would be taken aback now if Villa, confidence shot to pieces, could not clamber out of the Premier League's quicksands?

That is not to say the only antidote whenever a club runs into trouble is to write another cheque. It can help, though. Villa are fourth from bottom, with the worst defence in the league and 19 goals scored from their 23 games. At least Reading, directly below them, have some degree of momentum. Wigan have shown a few times that they understand the spirit of togetherness that is needed for an end-of-season feat of escapology. Even QPR are showing flickers of recovery.

Yet Lerner says nothing. The Birmingham Mail has already delivered a list of questions (No1: Are you still committed to Aston Villa?) and been ignored. Trying to explain another ghastly embarrassment on Friday, Lambert shunned every question from its correspondent. Four times he looked the other way and left the Millwall pressroom suspended in awkward silence.

It was pathetic stuff. In his position, Lambert might be better advised trying to ingratiate himself with the local paper rather than masquerading as a junior Sir Alex Ferguson.

In Lerner's case, he has no duty to be heard. There is nothing that says a football club's owner should be accessible to the media and public. Yet it might at least give him the chance to demonstrate he is still committed, determined to put it right and not planning to have his tattoo removed by laser. Turning up on Wednesday might be a start.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/26/randy-lerner-aston-villa-paul-lambert?CMP=twt_gu

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #707 on: January 26, 2013, 08:25:03 PM »
'England's second city, as they still like to call themselves'

Do they? I wonder why the hell that would be. It couldn't have anything to do with...you know...size or..or population or anything?

Good article otherwise, but to hell with the Guardian's snarky Mancophilia.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #708 on: January 26, 2013, 08:26:18 PM »
A very good article. The whole thing is far too much in the open to be allowed to continue and by that I mean the manner in which Lerner is so remote, like a General who sits in the office while his troops are at war. There is no implied reference to General Krulak here, by the way.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2013, 08:34:40 PM by Dave Clark Five »

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #709 on: January 26, 2013, 08:28:36 PM »
What was that 'england's second city' comment all about? He's made a bit of an arse of himself there.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #710 on: January 26, 2013, 08:32:29 PM »
What was that 'england's second city' comment all about? He's made a bit of an arse of himself there.

I tried giving it the benefit of the doubt, and thinking maybe he believes cities with nicknames are passé.
But then that just makes him a snob, which is not much better.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #711 on: January 26, 2013, 08:35:44 PM »
What was that 'england's second city' comment all about? He's made a bit of an arse of himself there.
It is a pity that he had to put that dig in there. In just dilutes the weight of the article.

Offline VILLA MOLE

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #712 on: January 26, 2013, 08:38:10 PM »
was it more about the potentual of not 
being a premiership club from the city ?

Offline LeeS

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #713 on: January 26, 2013, 08:41:11 PM »
The Guardian is, and always has been, a Manchester paper. Read nothing else into it. It is probably editorial policy to refer to Birmingham in that way.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #714 on: January 26, 2013, 08:43:59 PM »
I rather think there's more to be upset about in this article than worrying whether the late-of-Manchester Guardian thinks Birmingham is worthy of the accolade Second City or not.

Offline Irish villain

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #715 on: January 26, 2013, 08:47:05 PM »
The whole football community is agog at Lerner's destruction of the club.


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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #716 on: January 26, 2013, 08:56:41 PM »
What was that 'england's second city' comment all about? He's made a bit of an arse of himself there.
It is a pity that he had to put that dig in there. In just dilutes the weight of the article.

Typical Guardian snobby bollocks.

Offline E I Adio

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #717 on: January 26, 2013, 09:03:55 PM »
Typical Guardian snobby bollocks.

Just imagine if the Torygraph had written a piece then.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #718 on: January 26, 2013, 09:05:33 PM »
Typical Guardian snobby bollocks.

Just imagine if the Torygraph had written a piece then.
Just imagine......but they didn't.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #719 on: January 26, 2013, 09:09:14 PM »
What was that 'england's second city' comment all about? He's made a bit of an arse of himself there.
It is a pity that he had to put that dig in there. In just dilutes the weight of the article.

Typical Guardian snobby bollocks.
Forget the politics and stick to the football.

 


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