Randy Lerner

[Ian.]

It’s all very well asking for Randy to pack his bags and leave, but who in the name of god would take over?

Let’s look at the facts. We are a middling Midlands club who lurch from one crisis to the next and whose fans are prone to turn on either the manager/players/board at any given point. Add to that the fact that, despite the investment of Randy and the optimism that abounded when he came, we have still struggled to fill the ground on a regular basis, despite being in a large catchment area and offering some of the most attractive ticket prices in the Premier League.

In addition, outside of the UK we are virtual unknowns to the average Johnny Foreigner. Citeh, at least had the benefit of sharing the city name with a world brand. Many of the colleagues, who I work with, have no clue as to where we play, let alone understand our history and the Dutch are normally pretty good with these things.

I’m as unhappy as the next man as to the state of the club right now, but Randy is not going anywhere currently and even if he was, I very much doubt there would be a line of suitors ready to snap us up.

I wouldn't put you in charge of our Marketing Team if we are looking for a new Chairman or Owner

[pauliewalnuts]

Think it's time for Randy to go , he gave it his best but it's not been good enough.Lack of knowledge allowing wages to spiral and money to be wasted has now left as for thr 3rd season in a row looking like going down ..this time of all the three I fear the most.The recent defeats have shown up a team lacking in experiance .quality and confidence.

Still we wait around for players to help us and nothing has happened.This year I doubt we can hang on Soton and QPR are going to spend to stay up.I fear for the club and the disaster of going down.

For Randy to go where, though?

To do what? To sell up? What if nobody wants to buy it?

You can't force owners to go if there's nobody with the dough to buy the club.

I'd just like him to get his shit together, stop running the club by email, and stop making shit decisions which are just accelerating the demise of the club.

[David_Nab]

Surely someone would want to buy though there are less clubs than us that have buyers wanting them , fuck with Blues have people interested.If no one does want the club then we really are in trouble

Like you I would like him to get his shit together but it seems like that just isn't going to happen.I can't see him suddenly becoming more hands on.

[Risso]

Think it's time for Randy to go , he gave it his best but it's not been good enough.Lack of knowledge allowing wages to spiral and money to be wasted has now left as for thr 3rd season in a row looking like going down ..this time of all the three I fear the most.The recent defeats have shown up a team lacking in experiance .quality and confidence.

Still we wait around for players to help us and nothing has happened.This year I doubt we can hang on Soton and QPR are going to spend to stay up.I fear for the club and the disaster of going down.

For Randy to go where, though?

To do what? To sell up? What if nobody wants to buy it?

You can't force owners to go if there's nobody with the dough to buy the club.

I'd just like him to get his shit together, stop running the club by email, and stop making shit decisions which are just accelerating the demise of the club.

The trouble is, he's made such a godawful mess of the finances, that finding a buyer would be next to impossible.  He paid £60m for a club with net assets of £26m.  He's put £200m in, and we now have a club with net LIABILITIES of £20m, so how much do you think he'd get now?  OK the future income streams should be higher (assuming we don't go down, which is a big assumption at this point), which is why he's probably embarked on this austerity drive.  If we stay up, the TV money has doubled, so a buyer could be told that two to three years of Premier League revnu would make a big dent in our deficit.  The trouble is, the policy has made the liklihood of staying up sketchy at best.  He's the Premier League equivalent of George Osborne.  The economy needs people to spend again, but Osborne's policies have meant that people are instead hanging on to what little money they have.  Lerner needs us to stay up to start to improve the financial situation, but his policies are making that increasingly less likely.  If we go down, it will absolutely knacker us if we don't come straight back up.

[onje_villa]

Put your hand in your pocket Lerner, this team needs investment this month and if it doesn't get it it will go down. Then you miss out on the new TV deal and we'll be stuffed.

In a nutshell.

[onje_villa]

It’s all very well asking for Randy to pack his bags and leave, but who in the name of god would take over?

Let’s look at the facts. We are a middling Midlands club who lurch from one crisis to the next and whose fans are prone to turn on either the manager/players/board at any given point. Add to that the fact that, despite the investment of Randy and the optimism that abounded when he came, we have still struggled to fill the ground on a regular basis, despite being in a large catchment area and offering some of the most attractive ticket prices in the Premier League.

In addition, outside of the UK we are virtual unknowns to the average Johnny Foreigner. Citeh, at least had the benefit of sharing the city name with a world brand. Many of the colleagues, who I work with, have no clue as to where we play, let alone understand our history and the Dutch are normally pretty good with these things.

I’m as unhappy as the next man as to the state of the club right now, but Randy is not going anywhere currently and even if he was, I very much doubt there would be a line of suitors ready to snap us up.

I find that reasonably derogatory.
Fine club with a fine infrastructure in UK's second city.
Proud history.
Best training facilities in the league.

Shit team and squad yes, but plenty of potential.

[Risso]

Shit team and squad yes, but plenty of potential.

And loads of debt.

[PeterWithesShin]

Before Randy took over I was depressed and miserable. He's turned it all round, now i'm miserable and depressed.

[Legion]

Ha!

[bertlambshank]

Before Randy took over I was depressed and miserable. He's turned it all round, now i'm miserable and depressed.

Its all our fault for falling for the bullshit.

[NeilH]

It’s all very well asking for Randy to pack his bags and leave, but who in the name of god would take over?

Let’s look at the facts. We are a middling Midlands club who lurch from one crisis to the next and whose fans are prone to turn on either the manager/players/board at any given point. Add to that the fact that, despite the investment of Randy and the optimism that abounded when he came, we have still struggled to fill the ground on a regular basis, despite being in a large catchment area and offering some of the most attractive ticket prices in the Premier League.

In addition, outside of the UK we are virtual unknowns to the average Johnny Foreigner. Citeh, at least had the benefit of sharing the city name with a world brand. Many of the colleagues, who I work with, have no clue as to where we play, let alone understand our history and the Dutch are normally pretty good with these things.

I’m as unhappy as the next man as to the state of the club right now, but Randy is not going anywhere currently and even if he was, I very much doubt there would be a line of suitors ready to snap us up.

I find that reasonably derogatory.
Fine club with a fine infrastructure in UK's second city.
Proud history.
Best training facilities in the league.

Shit team and squad yes, but plenty of potential.

As has oft been said, England's 2nd city is not exactly appealing to most foreigner investors, so I don't buy that argument and never have.

As regards the Proud History, I'm not denying that one iota, but there are plenty of clubs that can lay claim to that and I doubt the kind of investors that most Villa fans are calling fall will give two hoots about our status as the worlds first super club.

As much as I love our club, the reality is that in the short-sighted world of the modern game, we don't register a blip.

[Dave Cooper please]

Surely someone would want to buy though there are less clubs than us that have buyers wanting them , fuck with Blues have people interested.If no one does want the club then we really are in trouble

Yes, but just look at the sort of people being linked with Small Heath.
Or do you fancy a bit of Venky's?
Things are bad now, but believe me, they could be a whole lot worse.

[silhillvilla]

If Randy goes and there is no buyer we are in administration.
Be careful what you wish for.

[Fuse]

It’s all very well asking for Randy to pack his bags and leave, but who in the name of god would take over?

Let’s look at the facts. We are a middling Midlands club who lurch from one crisis to the next and whose fans are prone to turn on either the manager/players/board at any given point. Add to that the fact that, despite the investment of Randy and the optimism that abounded when he came, we have still struggled to fill the ground on a regular basis, despite being in a large catchment area and offering some of the most attractive ticket prices in the Premier League.

In addition, outside of the UK we are virtual unknowns to the average Johnny Foreigner. Citeh, at least had the benefit of sharing the city name with a world brand. Many of the colleagues, who I work with, have no clue as to where we play, let alone understand our history and the Dutch are normally pretty good with these things.

I’m as unhappy as the next man as to the state of the club right now, but Randy is not going anywhere currently and even if he was, I very much doubt there would be a line of suitors ready to snap us up.

I disagree.

Our image in the media is shocking and has been for years. This doesnt help, however we are still a huge football club with massive potential. People talk about the fact we struggled to fill the ground but I would suggest that whilst we were avergaign 40k for a couple of seasons, people were still waiting on us going to the next level in terms of signing star players. I beieve if MON ahd not fecked thing sup back in 08/09 and we had qualiified for the CL, then we may well have then invested in bigger name stars and now be sat with waiting lists to get season tickets.

Our biggest problem has always been a failure to take that next step. Whether it be under DOug or now Randy, we have been presented with the keys to the door on numerous ocassions but bottled it. UNtil someone has the wherwithal to take us to the enxt level then we will forever be an also ran.

But  disagree that we dont have the potential or the fanbase to compare to all but Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal.

[eastie]

If Randy goes and there is no buyer we are in administration.
Be careful what you wish for.

I don't think things are  or will be as bad as that .
If he goes he will sell up but may have to take a big loss on his investment .