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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #390 on: January 08, 2013, 11:42:22 PM »
To be fair he could give Lambert £30 million, but if he spends it on kids who some clearly aren't good enough then we're doomed anyway. Lerner has fucked up massively, but it's not 100% his responsibility.

Lerner won't sanction PL wages. That's why we have to look to the lower leagues. Lerner is 100% responsible for our decline over the last 3 years. Until he pulls his finger out we're fucked.

What are you talking about?! Lerner has absolutely nothing to do with footballing decisions, the way the club is ran or who makes up the team. He writes the checks, and that's it. He entrusted this team to Paul Faulkner and he is a total jackass. Not a football man, has never run a club before and doesn't know good from bad, right from wrong. He's and MBNA business product that is lost in the sauce.

Get him the fuck out already.

Er, the obvious retort to that is that he employs Paul Faulkner, so clearly he does have something to do with the way the club is run.  He doesn't have to leave that absolute clown in charge, it's his club.

Quite.

Ultimately, he owns the club, he makes the decisions, the buck stops with him.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #391 on: January 08, 2013, 11:48:05 PM »
Difficult to see who Randy would appoint instead of PF. Last 3 managers he has appointed (since MON) have been very different from each other. I really think PL could still deliver, but tonight is a bit of a disappointment to put it mildly. However, the team/squad doesn't seem to have the requisite class or edge for sustained membership of the premier League, at the moment.
That's where the club really needs to have a secure presence.

I know that we are looking to have a roller-coaster ride this season, but unless Mr Faulkner can see some significant buys in the window for January (and I'm assuming Randy is in touch) then I would be reassessing PL's judgement of what is needed to survive, and PF's judgement in backing him.
Try somebody who had been in football.

Well, quite.  Who do you have in mind?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #392 on: January 08, 2013, 11:53:14 PM »
Difficult to see who Randy would appoint instead of PF. Last 3 managers he has appointed (since MON) have been very different from each other. I really think PL could still deliver, but tonight is a bit of a disappointment to put it mildly. However, the team/squad doesn't seem to have the requisite class or edge for sustained membership of the premier League, at the moment.
That's where the club really needs to have a secure presence.

I know that we are looking to have a roller-coaster ride this season, but unless Mr Faulkner can see some significant buys in the window for January (and I'm assuming Randy is in touch) then I would be reassessing PL's judgement of what is needed to survive, and PF's judgement in backing him.
Try somebody who had been in football.

Well, quite.  Who do you have in mind?

I don't know, but I do know that if I had a company I'd invested £200m in, I'd make damned sure I did know a bit about it before choosing someone.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #393 on: January 08, 2013, 11:56:12 PM »
For all I know, PF does.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #394 on: January 08, 2013, 11:57:48 PM »
Difficult to see who Randy would appoint instead of PF. Last 3 managers he has appointed (since MON) have been very different from each other. I really think PL could still deliver, but tonight is a bit of a disappointment to put it mildly. However, the team/squad doesn't seem to have the requisite class or edge for sustained membership of the premier League, at the moment.
That's where the club really needs to have a secure presence.

I know that we are looking to have a roller-coaster ride this season, but unless Mr Faulkner can see some significant buys in the window for January (and I'm assuming Randy is in touch) then I would be reassessing PL's judgement of what is needed to survive, and PF's judgement in backing him.
Try somebody who had been in football.

Well, quite.  Who do you have in mind?
Off the top of my head and if the club insist on bringing the kids through then it has to be Dario Gradi.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #395 on: January 09, 2013, 12:04:15 AM »
For all I know, PF does.
He might of played Eton Fives at Cambridge Uni,but it is not known as a hot bed of football.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-faulkner/b/801/430

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #396 on: January 09, 2013, 12:06:02 AM »
Difficult to see who Randy would appoint instead of PF. Last 3 managers he has appointed (since MON) have been very different from each other. I really think PL could still deliver, but tonight is a bit of a disappointment to put it mildly. However, the team/squad doesn't seem to have the requisite class or edge for sustained membership of the premier League, at the moment.
That's where the club really needs to have a secure presence.

I know that we are looking to have a roller-coaster ride this season, but unless Mr Faulkner can see some significant buys in the window for January (and I'm assuming Randy is in touch) then I would be reassessing PL's judgement of what is needed to survive, and PF's judgement in backing him.
Try somebody who had been in football.

Well, quite.  Who do you have in mind?
Off the top of my head and if the club insist on bringing the kids through then it has to be Dario Gradi.

Wonder if he would come? Maybe working with PF, who's been on a major learning curve!

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #397 on: January 09, 2013, 12:07:34 AM »
For all I know, PF does.
He might of played Eton Fives at Cambridge Uni,but it is not known as a hot bed of football.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-faulkner/b/801/430

You look at that career history, and you do have to wonder how fucking brilliant someone would have to be to have made a jump like that from his MBNA job to his Villa job.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #398 on: January 09, 2013, 12:08:06 AM »
Difficult to see who Randy would appoint instead of PF. Last 3 managers he has appointed (since MON) have been very different from each other. I really think PL could still deliver, but tonight is a bit of a disappointment to put it mildly. However, the team/squad doesn't seem to have the requisite class or edge for sustained membership of the premier League, at the moment.
That's where the club really needs to have a secure presence.

I know that we are looking to have a roller-coaster ride this season, but unless Mr Faulkner can see some significant buys in the window for January (and I'm assuming Randy is in touch) then I would be reassessing PL's judgement of what is needed to survive, and PF's judgement in backing him.
Try somebody who had been in football.

Well, quite.  Who do you have in mind?
Off the top of my head and if the club insist on bringing the kids through then it has to be Dario Gradi.

Wonder if he would come? Maybe working with PF, who's been on a major learning curve!
Good shout that Louzie0

Offline mr woo

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #399 on: January 09, 2013, 12:09:27 AM »
I do find some of this criticism odd.

For years, we had a chairman that many felt stuck his nose into team affairs a little too much. Now we have a chairman that is happy to step back and let his staff take care of their assigned positions, and people don't like that either.

It seems to me that if the team plays well, the chairmans great, and if they lose the chairman's shit. Are things really that simple?
Really?

Aren't there two arguments here? Those that think Lerner is a poor chairman because they know what constitutes a good chairman and those that think Lerner is a poor chairman simply because he's not as rich as Sheik Mansour.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #400 on: January 09, 2013, 12:16:02 AM »
To be fair he could give Lambert £30 million, but if he spends it on kids who some clearly aren't good enough then we're doomed anyway. Lerner has fucked up massively, but it's not 100% his responsibility.

Lerner won't sanction PL wages. That's why we have to look to the lower leagues. Lerner is 100% responsible for our decline over the last 3 years. Until he pulls his finger out we're fucked.

What are you talking about?! Lerner has absolutely nothing to do with footballing decisions, the way the club is ran or who makes up the team. He writes the checks, and that's it. He entrusted this team to Paul Faulkner and he is a total jackass. Not a football man, has never run a club before and doesn't know good from bad, right from wrong. He's and MBNA business product that is lost in the sauce.

Get him the fuck out already.

Lerner signs the cheques, but those cheques don't pay enough to sign PL standard players. That's why Lambert has looked to the lower leagues. You pack your team out with players from the lower leagues and that's where you'll end up.

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #401 on: January 09, 2013, 12:19:50 AM »
I do find some of this criticism odd.

For years, we had a chairman that many felt stuck his nose into team affairs a little too much. Now we have a chairman that is happy to step back and let his staff take care of their assigned positions, and people don't like that either.

It seems to me that if the team plays well, the chairmans great, and if they lose the chairman's shit. Are things really that simple?
Really?

Aren't there two arguments here? Those that think Lerner is a poor chairman because they know what constitutes a good chairman and those that think Lerner is a poor chairman simply because he's not as rich as Sheik Mansour.
After the past 3 years you have to admit there is a problem.Randy ask Faulkner to run the club.The club is on it's arse,who else would you blame?

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #402 on: January 09, 2013, 12:26:12 AM »
Don't agree club is on its arse.
After tonight it will look better.

Still like your idea about Dario Gradi, though!

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #403 on: January 09, 2013, 12:28:42 AM »
For all I know, PF does.
He might of played Eton Fives at Cambridge Uni,but it is not known as a hot bed of football.
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/paul-faulkner/b/801/430

You look at that career history, and you do have to wonder how fucking brilliant someone would have to be to have made a jump like that from his MBNA job to his Villa job.
Brilliant is a word, or maybe arse licker of the century, I mean there is absoloutely nothing that would wualify him to be in charge of a Kwik Fit let alone a PL Football Club with a multi Million revenue stream. God Help us.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Randy Lerner
« Reply #404 on: January 09, 2013, 12:31:24 AM »
I do find some of this criticism odd.

For years, we had a chairman that many felt stuck his nose into team affairs a little too much. Now we have a chairman that is happy to step back and let his staff take care of their assigned positions, and people don't like that either.

It seems to me that if the team plays well, the chairmans great, and if they lose the chairman's shit. Are things really that simple?
Really?

Aren't there two arguments here? Those that think Lerner is a poor chairman because they know what constitutes a good chairman and those that think Lerner is a poor chairman simply because he's not as rich as Sheik Mansour.
No he is a useless Chairman because he makes useless appointments.

 


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