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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847965 times)

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4770 on: April 06, 2013, 08:03:29 PM »
We won the fecking game, give it a rest

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4771 on: April 06, 2013, 09:43:29 PM »
He then takes of Gabby who had been our best player up until that point. .
I've been critical of Lambert but no choice with Gabby as he sustained a thigh injury
Oh right. Fair enough then. Still think N'Zogbia should've come on before they equalised. As I say though, I am willing to ignore his faults displayed this season should we stay up.

Nzog was brought on against Liverpool and our momentum pretty much stalled. If the same had happened we would have had people saying why did he do it for.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4772 on: April 06, 2013, 09:48:14 PM »
To be fair, the tide was against us when N'Zog came on last week. Think he has been doing okay for us in recent times, not what we expected perhaps bit working for the team

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4773 on: April 06, 2013, 09:49:20 PM »
I expect will get another season but he must get us back into the top half. We don't want to start thinking of surviving relegation as a successful season.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4774 on: April 06, 2013, 09:51:00 PM »
Stop fucking moaning.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4775 on: April 06, 2013, 09:51:35 PM »


It's a good way of keeping track of the fluctuating support (although gratifying that at no single point has there been a majority for sacking him),

Yes there has.

It got close, but I don't think it has ever tipped over to the majority out. And I don't mean half an hour after a game without rational thought, I mean 2-3 days after a poll reset.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4776 on: April 06, 2013, 09:53:06 PM »
I've been very critical of him, and I still think it was negligent of him to so purposely avoid PL experience both in the summer, and particularly January. It was reckless and he was frustratingly stubborn.

However at no point have I ever wanted him to not be a success, and there are some real encouraging aspects which he deserves immense credit. The stubbornness and conviction could be real assets if he is the real deal.

For me though, if we survive he HAS to learn from this season and bring in experience. I wouldn't forgive him if he made the same mistakes next time.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4777 on: April 06, 2013, 09:53:27 PM »
Everytime I see 'poll reset' I die a little inside.

Why?

It's a good way of keeping track of the fluctuating support (although gratifying that at no single point has there been a majority for sacking him), otherwise it'd be a pointless indication of what people thought x months ago.

I don't like the poll getting reset either. I've been in favour of Lambert right from the start, he's the right man for Villa.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4778 on: April 06, 2013, 09:59:56 PM »
I've been very critical of him, and I still think it was negligent of him to so purposely avoid PL experience both in the summer, and particularly January. It was reckless and he was frustratingly stubborn.

However at no point have I ever wanted him to not be a success, and there are some real encouraging aspects which he deserves immense credit. The stubbornness and conviction could be real assets if he is the real deal.

For me though, if we survive he HAS to learn from this season and bring in experience. I wouldn't forgive him if he made the same mistakes next time.

I think he had his hands tied in January to an extent. There was more available than he spent, but I think the wages on offer stopped us being able to afford the sort of players that would have added the experience, and look at QPR with Samba, 125k a week and he is making mistakes just as bad as our kids. Difficult to get it right.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4779 on: April 06, 2013, 10:03:00 PM »
I expect will get another season but he must get us back into the top half. We don't want to start thinking of surviving relegation as a successful season.

Very true. Still, it feels damn good to win away though!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4780 on: April 06, 2013, 10:18:41 PM »
I've been very critical of him, and I still think it was negligent of him to so purposely avoid PL experience both in the summer, and particularly January. It was reckless and he was frustratingly stubborn.

However at no point have I ever wanted him to not be a success, and there are some real encouraging aspects which he deserves immense credit. The stubbornness and conviction could be real assets if he is the real deal.

For me though, if we survive he HAS to learn from this season and bring in experience. I wouldn't forgive him if he made the same mistakes next time.

I think he had his hands tied in January to an extent. There was more available than he spent, but I think the wages on offer stopped us being able to afford the sort of players that would have added the experience, and look at QPR with Samba, 125k a week and he is making mistakes just as bad as our kids. Difficult to get it right.

"There was more available than he spent" How do you know? It seems quite obvious that PL is desperate to get the likes of Given, Ireland and Bent off the payroll, until that happens I think his hands are tied.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4781 on: April 06, 2013, 10:28:50 PM »
He then takes of Gabby who had been our best player up until that point. .
I've been critical of Lambert but no choice with Gabby as he sustained a thigh injury
Oh right. Fair enough then. Still think N'Zogbia should've come on before they equalised. As I say though, I am willing to ignore his faults displayed this season should we stay up.

Nzog was brought on against Liverpool and our momentum pretty much stalled. If the same had happened we would have had people saying why did he do it for.
Didn't Zog come along with Delph against Pool? By that logic, doesn't Delph get an equal share of the blame? The momentum stalled as soon as they equalised. Nothing to do with the subs.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4782 on: April 06, 2013, 10:39:15 PM »
I find it odd that there are people questioning him today.  He got the starting line up spot on.  It really wouldn't have flattered us to have been 4 or 5 up by the time Begovic tipped Bowery's chance around the post.

We were still the better side in the 2nd half when Gabby was on.  Him picking up a knock and having to go off changed our shape (what was interesting is that for a lot of the time we were playing a 4222 with Gabby and Weimann central behind Bowery and Benteke who were playing wider, which was pulling Huth and Shawcross out of the middle, Weimann shot on the post is a great example of it).  On top of that they'd already brought on Jerome who's extra pace meant the long hopeful hoofs which were their only threat were actually being chased down.  Before they scored the only other thing of note was the air shot from Jones after Jerome outpaced Bennett.  The goal then came about largely because of lowton's slip.

Nzogbia might have come on sooner as Bowery really was looking tired but he didn't get today wrong, if we'd been a bit more ruthless it could have been a real battering.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4783 on: April 06, 2013, 11:08:22 PM »
He then takes of Gabby who had been our best player up until that point. .
I've been critical of Lambert but no choice with Gabby as he sustained a thigh injury
Oh right. Fair enough then. Still think N'Zogbia should've come on before they equalised. As I say though, I am willing to ignore his faults displayed this season should we stay up.

Nzog was brought on against Liverpool and our momentum pretty much stalled. If the same had happened we would have had people saying why did he do it for.
Didn't Zog come along with Delph against Pool? By that logic, doesn't Delph get an equal share of the blame? The momentum stalled as soon as they equalised. Nothing to do with the subs.

Delph wasn't brought on in an attacking sense as such. And we still had Benteke and Weimann go close after they equalised and took the lead. But in the last 15 mins we did nothing attacking wise. I'm not blaming Nzog as Liverpool pretty much shut up shop from then onwards but just pointing out that subs can go either way.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4784 on: April 06, 2013, 11:12:32 PM »
We won 3-1 away from home and am I reading Lambert got the tactics wrong?

Ha ha ha ha

3 wins out of 4, that's brilliant form in anyone's book and shows that we are going well and heading in the right direction.

Lambert is absolutely right for our club and the single minded way he's been dealing with the likes of Ireland et al is just what we needed.

 


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