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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848006 times)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4725 on: April 03, 2013, 10:57:02 PM »
The only reason you're saying the PL is dull is because the Villa have been so dull.
This season has been monumentally shit, including or excluding villa.

Not sure it's worthy of "monumentally", Ger, it's been too dull for that. The league done and dusted in early April and, however hard Sky try to peddle it, unless you are one of the clubs involved the "battle for fourth place" is a non-event.

exactly my point. Also, can I add Villa have been, apart from too many mistakes, way more entertaining this season so it is nothing to do with Villa, just football in general. It has been a mightily boring season. The fact there are only 3 possible players of the season really, and all  3 are widely disliked says a lot.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4726 on: April 03, 2013, 11:00:17 PM »
The only reason you're saying the PL is dull is because the Villa have been so dull.
This season has been monumentally shit, including or excluding villa.

Not sure it's worthy of "monumentally", Ger, it's been too dull for that. The league done and dusted in early April and, however hard Sky try to peddle it, unless you are one of the clubs involved the "battle for fourth place" is a non-event.

exactly my point. Also, can I add Villa have been, apart from too many mistakes, way more entertaining this season so it is nothing to do with Villa, just football in general. It has been a mightily boring season. The fact there are only 3 possible players of the season really, and all  3 are widely disliked says a lot.

Are you really claiming we've been entertaining this season?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4727 on: April 03, 2013, 11:03:17 PM »
The fact there are only 3 possible players of the season really, and all  3 are widely disliked says a lot.
Is that rare? I can't think of many seasons where there are more than one or two likely candidates.

But I'm not sure whether there is one or twenty possibilities dictates how entertaining the season has been.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4728 on: April 03, 2013, 11:04:58 PM »
Think of the 10 best goals we have scored in the last 3 seasons. I reckon most would come this. We have taken the lead a lot, got to a cup semi, played some lovely football and continuously shot ourselves in the foot. But yeah we have been great to watch going forward at times, if of course you are not looking through the specs of John Major in spitting image.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4729 on: April 03, 2013, 11:07:01 PM »
I think it does Dave. There have been seasons where the league has been lifted by some outstanding sides, with great players, I think it is very mediocre at the moment.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4730 on: April 03, 2013, 11:09:17 PM »
Think of the 10 best goals we have scored in the last 3 seasons. I reckon most would come this. We have taken the lead a lot, got to a cup semi, played some lovely football and continuously shot ourselves in the foot. But yeah we have been great to watch going forward at times, if of course you are not looking through the specs of John Major in spitting image.

This season has been appalling. Try as much as you like but you'll never convince many it's been entertaining.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4731 on: April 03, 2013, 11:16:48 PM »
Think of the 10 best goals we have scored in the last 3 seasons. I reckon most would come this. We have taken the lead a lot, got to a cup semi, played some lovely football and continuously shot ourselves in the foot. But yeah we have been great to watch going forward at times, if of course you are not looking through the specs of John Major in spitting image.

This season has been appalling. Try as much as you like but you'll never convince many it's been entertaining.


Parts have been. As a total I think writing it off as such kills all hope for the future where many positives can be drawn.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4732 on: April 04, 2013, 07:18:57 AM »
The fact there are only 3 possible players of the season really, and all  3 are widely disliked says a lot.
Is that rare? I can't think of many seasons where there are more than one or two likely candidates.

But I'm not sure whether there is one or twenty possibilities dictates how entertaining the season has been.

Usually there are two or three stand out players - seems a normal season in that respect.
The fact the title race is over so early is not great , but I think the dogfight between 8 teams at the bottom will be exciting and go to the last game ( hopefully not for us).

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4733 on: April 04, 2013, 08:46:31 AM »
Think of the 10 best goals we have scored in the last 3 seasons. I reckon most would come this. We have taken the lead a lot, got to a cup semi, played some lovely football and continuously shot ourselves in the foot. But yeah we have been great to watch going forward at times, if of course you are not looking through the specs of John Major in spitting image.

This season has been appalling. Try as much as you like but you'll never convince many it's been entertaining.
The schoolboy errors that have created so many disappointing results have been appalling. The inevitable surrendering of leads has been excruciating.
But I agree with Ozz: some of the goals we've scored have been joyful to watch; some of the passing moves have been great; some of the honest endeavour has been heart warming.
Perhaps, however, we're judging the season on the back of two heart-stoppingly painful years during whcih we have endured the likes of Hutton, Ireland, Collins , Heskey et al poncing around and really not doing very much.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4734 on: April 04, 2013, 08:48:37 AM »
I think QPR was game of the season closely followed by an hour against Man ure, that sums it all up really..

Edit, Now I actually think a bit Liverpool away was good and Man City in the cup
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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4735 on: April 04, 2013, 08:49:27 AM »
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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4736 on: April 04, 2013, 09:14:58 AM »
Think of the 10 best goals we have scored in the last 3 seasons. I reckon most would come this. We have taken the lead a lot, got to a cup semi, played some lovely football and continuously shot ourselves in the foot. But yeah we have been great to watch going forward at times, if of course you are not looking through the specs of John Major in spitting image.

This season has been appalling. Try as much as you like but you'll never convince many it's been entertaining.
The schoolboy errors that have created so many disappointing results have been appalling. The inevitable surrendering of leads has been excruciating.
But I agree with Ozz: some of the goals we've scored have been joyful to watch; some of the passing moves have been great; some of the honest endeavour has been heart warming.
Perhaps, however, we're judging the season on the back of two heart-stoppingly painful years during whcih we have endured the likes of Hutton, Ireland, Collins , Heskey et al poncing around and really not doing very much.

Fully agree with this.

Yes, we need better players in a few positions and the results haven't been there, but it's easy to see what Lambert is trying to do and if he gets it right, which obviously is still a big question, then we'll be a great side with much to admire. 

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4737 on: April 04, 2013, 10:46:36 AM »
And appoint who? He is rebuilding the squad from top to bottom with a strategy that in my view will pay off in the long term. Sure, it will be horrible to go down but I would take the seasons pain to stick with a longer term strategy that again, in my view will see us move forward with a way of playing, purchasing and bringing through players. The short termism does't work unless you have bucket loads, while the idea of being a Stoke type side bobbling about mid table playing shit football with no long term progression bores me to tears. The premier league is dull enough as it is, I can deal with a bit of Championship to stick with a plan. It is not the b all so to speak for me.

The only reason you're saying the PL is dull is because the Villa have been so dull. Can't see why you think the Championship would be any more exciting though. I'm sure the endless amounts of midweek games against the likes of Millwall and co doesn't bear thinking about.
If we go down Lambert must be sacked. We shouldn't reward him by letting him keep his job. He should never darken our door again if he drags us down.

If we go down I won't see it as Lambert 'dragging us down'. This club has been on the slide for a few years now and this would simply be a culmination of of those years of mismanagement.

We don't know what has gone on behind the scenes in terms of getting rid of the senior players on large wages (or trying to), any wage cap that has been implemented, or any other  financial issues that Lambert has had to put up with.

I see a team that has been abject at times this season but that at the moment seems to be improving. We haven't been outplayed even by a top team in recent weeks and going forward we look better than we have done for a long time.

Going down would be awful, no doubt, but I don't see anyone better than Lambert to get us back up (with the possible exception of a real old-school Championship manager such as Mick McCarthy) and I don't think we should 'punish' him for this season. That would be cutting off our collective nose to spite our face.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4738 on: April 04, 2013, 12:30:23 PM »
I think QPR was game of the season closely followed by an hour against Man ure, that sums it all up really..

Edit, Now I actually think a bit Liverpool away was good and Man City in the cup

Liverpool away was game of the season.  Norwich away and Man City away were also pretty special.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 11th March
« Reply #4739 on: April 04, 2013, 12:48:07 PM »
Swansea at home was the best. 2 good goals. Good performance. Clean sheet. Can't say that too often...

 


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