Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[Clampy]

The problem is we can sit here all day saying how useful Upson might have been but maybe Lambert did'nt rate him or Scharner enough to bring in.

[PaulWinch again]

The problem is we can sit here all day saying how useful Upson might have been but maybe Lambert did'nt rate him or Scharner enough to bring in.

Well then sadly his judgement is either completely negligent or incompetant. Either way it could well cost us our top flight status.

[Chris Smith]

I'm not that big a fan of Upson but bringing in someone like him would have taken the pressure off Clark and Baker.

Agreed- he went on loan to a lower league club and the money saved on warnocks wage along with dawkins and sylla would have easily covered him or scharner .

But he's crap.

[PaulWinch again]

I'm not that big a fan of Upson but bringing in someone like him would have taken the pressure off Clark and Baker.

Agreed- he went on loan to a lower league club and the money saved on warnocks wage along with dawkins and sylla would have easily covered him or scharner .

But he's crap.

Not compared to our terrible defence.

[eastie]

I'm not that big a fan of Upson but bringing in someone like him would have taken the pressure off Clark and Baker.

Agreed- he went on loan to a lower league club and the money saved on warnocks wage along with dawkins and sylla would have easily covered him or scharner .

But he's crap.

Not compared to our terrible defence.

Upson would have provided experience , organisation and improved the defence - i would have prefeered sharner but i'm sure their were other defensive options we could have looked at - lambert was saying how dunnes experience had been missed and how close to fitness he was- only for dunne had a relapse just after the window closed .

To risk losing £70m plus in relegation for the sake of giving a short loan deal to an experienced defender is nonsensical.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Ricardo Carvalho has been sitting on his hands at Real Madrid this year as 5th choice centre half and probably won't play another game his season. I know Eig is a big fan.

[aj2k77]

The problem is we can sit here all day saying how useful Upson might have been but maybe Lambert did'nt rate him or Scharner enough to bring in.

Our manager thinks Clark has had a fantastic season. So I wouldn't trust who he rates.

[Greg N'Ash]

This "we couldn't get a better defender than our current two" arse is rapidly resembling the  "there's no-one better than Lambert" bobbins.  With such unreplaceables in our team and management set-up, it really is a mystery how we're anchored in the bottom three.

[Chris Smith]

I'm not that big a fan of Upson but bringing in someone like him would have taken the pressure off Clark and Baker.

Agreed- he went on loan to a lower league club and the money saved on warnocks wage along with dawkins and sylla would have easily covered him or scharner .

But he's crap.

Not compared to our terrible defence.

Upson would have provided experience , organisation and improved the defence - i would have prefeered sharner but i'm sure their were other defensive options we could have looked at - lambert was saying how dunnes experience had been missed and how close to fitness he was- only for dunne had a relapse just after the window closed .

To risk losing £70m plus in relegation for the sake of giving a short loan deal to an experienced defender is nonsensical.

I repeat, Upson is crap. I'd rather our current two gain the experience everyone is pointing out that they lack (while hoping Vlaar or Dunne recover at  some point) than waste money on him.

This debate reminds me of when you were all trying to convince me that Ireland was a good signing!

[PaulWinch again]

Well Chris they don't seem to be learning from the experience they're getting. Clark is still making stupid errors and Baker is still constantly out of position, and still makes wreckless lunges. Upson would have added experience to our side.

[Holte L2]

Ricardo Carvalho has been sitting on his hands at Real Madrid this year as 5th choice centre half and probably won't play another game his season. I know Eig is a big fan.

Carvalho would have been the one for me.  Mourinho told him in August to find a new club.  Surely we could have done a deal for him? Even if Real paid half his wages.

[eastie]

Sharner or upson would have been better than clark or baker- upsons name is used as an example of the defenders available last month - there would have been many others - the fact that he recruited no defender at all is unacceptable given our plight.

The fact lambert thinks clark has had an excellent season shows just how deluded he is - he has lost the plot but im sure chris you will be defiantly singing his praises if he takes us down .

[supertom]

In our position we can't afford to be giving people like Clark and Baker on the job training. They may need more experience yes, but at the moment they are a liability, particularly Clark. And also to play alongside an older head who's been there and done it is particularly invaluable. How much better did Curtis Davies look playing next to Martin Laursen?

We've conceded more goals than anyone else, largely because we've played Clark and Baker all season. That's a fact. Even ignoring how light we are in the fullback areas, and how lacking in quality, the centre half area has been shambolic.

[eastie]

In our position we can't afford to be giving people like Clark and Baker on the job training. They may need more experience yes, but at the moment they are a liability, particularly Clark. And also to play alongside an older head who's been there and done it is particularly invaluable. How much better did Curtis Davies look playing next to Martin Laursen?

We've conceded more goals than anyone else, largely because we've played Clark and Baker all season. That's a fact. Even ignoring how light we are in the fullback areas, and how lacking in quality, the centre half area has been shambolic.

Exactly.

[PaulWinch again]

Whatever your point of view, I think it's abundantly clear that whatever the plan for the defence was this season it hasn't worked. The stats and results support that, so not addressing it in January was negligent.