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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848122 times)

Offline not3bad

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4200 on: February 28, 2013, 05:14:59 PM »
I'd hope he'd have the decency to resign if he relegates us. If not then he has to be removed from the job. Relegation is not acceptable to a club who has spent more time in the top division of English football than every other club in the land bar one. Sticking with him is just mental. Couldn't care less how much it would cost us. We are a proud club and relegation would be a humiliation. Sack him, and never let him darken our door again.

To a business hardened owner who accepted nothing but the best I think that would be the attitude.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4201 on: February 28, 2013, 07:09:05 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4202 on: February 28, 2013, 07:39:50 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4203 on: February 28, 2013, 11:19:16 PM »
People are correct in saying the club spent £24m on new players.

It is not correct to assume that all of it was to bolster the squad that finished 16th.  They were not all additions to the squad, some players brought in were to replace outgoing players e.g. Vlaar to replace Collins, Benteke to replace Heskey, KEA to replace Petrov, Lowton to replace Hutton and Bennett to replace Warnock.

Where it went wrong to some extent was not being able to move Hutton and Warnock on last summer and freeing up some more money to spend.  So, last summer the net increase in the squad was Westwood, Bowery and Holmann which is hardly a £24m strengthening of the squad and also bearing in mind Cuellar was not replaced.  Add to this, Dunne's injury, Ireland playing no better and getting little out of Gabby and CNZ in the first half of the season.

The manager chose not to use warnock and hutton , he chose to sell collins and could have kept cuellar if he wished as he did with guzan - he is the one who chose to jettison an experienced back 4 and he is the one who striggled to get the best out of ireland , gabby , etc in the first 20 odd games - it was his decision to bring in 9 players none of whom had ever kicked a ball in the premiership - and he is the one who has struggled to find his best team and best formation .

We may argue about the effectiveness of the money spent on transfers by Lambert but it seems as though we are in agreement that the money was not spent on adding to the squad, rather, replacing players sold or those not performing.  So, perhaps, we can put that one to bed.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4204 on: February 28, 2013, 11:31:08 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.
Spot on. I don't hear anyone asking for Paul Jewel.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4205 on: February 28, 2013, 11:33:31 PM »
I just do not get it.  It is as though money is no object to some of you.  Clearly, the club does not have much money to spend, even less if we get relegated.  I have said it before, if we get relegated, Lambert should not be sacked for getting us relegated but because there are better future prospects in appointing somebody else.  To read some of the comments, it is though you want to punish Lambert if he takes us down, regardless as to whether it damages the future finances and stability of the club.

If we get relegated, yes I will be upset but I will continue to look forward, not back.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4206 on: February 28, 2013, 11:40:36 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.
Spot on. I don't hear anyone asking for Paul Jewel.

I also don't remember anyone on here in the summer moaning about Lambert.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4207 on: February 28, 2013, 11:41:03 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

Or maybe it's because the club was in even more of a state than we thought it was?

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4208 on: February 28, 2013, 11:42:53 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.
Spot on. I don't hear anyone asking for Paul Jewel.

You may not be a supporter that approved of the appointment of Lambert (I do not know one way or the other) but the majority of fans were.  His managerial record before he came to Villa has not actually changed, although there are more people now voicing opinion that his record may not have been as good as it seemed at the time.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4209 on: February 28, 2013, 11:48:29 PM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.
Spot on. I don't hear anyone asking for Paul Jewel.

I also don't remember anyone on here in the summer moaning about Lambert.

Are you surprised after Alex McLeish?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4210 on: March 01, 2013, 12:38:55 AM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.

He was only at Colchester for less than a year and had a winning record, so wasn't a failure either. That they won 7-1 at Norwich before he left along with his winning record suggests he was doing more right than wrong.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4211 on: March 01, 2013, 08:46:41 AM »
What I don't get about Lambert is why his touch seems to have failed (thus far) at Villa. Good record at Colchester, spanks Norwich, gets poached by them straight after and then not only gets the team promoted to the top division, but puts in a very handy performance in his debut PL season.

It's as if we've got the twin brother while he takes a break.

His record was nothing special at Colchester at all.  A club the size of Norwich should always be too big for League 1, so I'd say his real achievements were taking them up from the Championship and keeping them there.  But then a few managers have managed a couple of good seasons before disappearing from whence they came.
Spot on. I don't hear anyone asking for Paul Jewel.

I also don't remember anyone on here in the summer moaning about Lambert.

Are you surprised after Alex McLeish?

And before Sam Allardyce.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4212 on: March 01, 2013, 08:59:00 AM »
I wanted lambert as manager but i certainly never expected things to be as bad this season as this .

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4213 on: March 01, 2013, 09:35:09 AM »
I just do not get it.  It is as though money is no object to some of you.  Clearly, the club does not have much money to spend, even less if we get relegated.  I have said it before, if we get relegated, Lambert should not be sacked for getting us relegated but because there are better future prospects in appointing somebody else.  To read some of the comments, it is though you want to punish Lambert if he takes us down, regardless as to whether it damages the future finances and stability of the club.

If we get relegated, yes I will be upset but I will continue to look forward, not back.
This.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4214 on: March 01, 2013, 09:51:03 AM »
I just do not get it.  It is as though money is no object to some of you.  Clearly, the club does not have much money to spend, even less if we get relegated.  I have said it before, if we get relegated, Lambert should not be sacked for getting us relegated but because there are better future prospects in appointing somebody else.  To read some of the comments, it is though you want to punish Lambert if he takes us down, regardless as to whether it damages the future finances and stability of the club.

If we get relegated, yes I will be upset but I will continue to look forward, not back.
This.


Not this.  It's not a question of "punishing" Lambert, merely just getting rid of an employee who has completely underperformed.  Him relegating us will in itself, be a huge body blow to the future finances and stability of the club.

 


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