Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

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[eastie]

Maybe, maybe not. The real issue is could we afford the wages? Probably not. That's the thing about having no money to spend, you go out and buy/loan players who were earning less than some posters on this site.

Im sure scharners not on more than warnock, sylla and dawkins combined - he would have been a loan deal so no big fee either and he is  also a decent defender or midfielder experienced and a battler  - im sure lambert could have found a defender, maybe he relied on dunne being close to fitness and gambled?

[LeeB]

Maybe, maybe not. The real issue is could we afford the wages? Probably not. That's the thing about having no money to spend, you go out and buy/loan players who were earning less than some posters on this site.

Im sure scharners not on more than warnock, sylla and dawkins combined - he would have been a loan deal so no big fee either and also a decent defender or midfielder - im sure lambert could have found a defender, maybe he relied on dunne being close to fitness and gambled?

He was a decent player, but he's knocking on, and for all we know we begged him to come but he chose Sunderland.

[eastie]

Maybe, maybe not. The real issue is could we afford the wages? Probably not. That's the thing about having no money to spend, you go out and buy/loan players who were earning less than some posters on this site.

Im sure scharners not on more than warnock, sylla and dawkins combined - he would have been a loan deal so no big fee either and also a decent defender or midfielder - im sure lambert could have found a defender, maybe he relied on dunne being close to fitness and gambled?

He was a decent player, but he's knocking on, and for all we know we begged him to come but he chose Sunderland.

No he never, he went to wigan and has looked superb since going there.

Again, just for the fullness...experienced players to help guide, lift, and lead these lads during a bad spell...anyone? There must be somebody out there in football land who wouldn't demand Lescott's wages or cost £10million that could do that Paul. He said he still had the Dempsey money available when the window ended last summer, he said he had more left but we'd be fine following the summer,

Because there is no way money was not available, so why didnt he use it? Don't want to admit he were wrong in the summer about these players being ready to cope on their own?

Is he unable to handle quality experienced players so surrounds himself with younger lads?
 
By all means defend him if you think he is a decent manager but don't tell me could not find anyone to improve our defence .

He constantly told press " we'll be fine , we won't go down- i just know it" .

Well we will soon find out if he is right or wrong .

[LeeB]

Maybe, maybe not. The real issue is could we afford the wages? Probably not. That's the thing about having no money to spend, you go out and buy/loan players who were earning less than some posters on this site.

Im sure scharners not on more than warnock, sylla and dawkins combined - he would have been a loan deal so no big fee either and also a decent defender or midfielder - im sure lambert could have found a defender, maybe he relied on dunne being close to fitness and gambled?

He was a decent player, but he's knocking on, and for all we know we begged him to come but he chose Sunderland.

No he never, he went to wigan and has looked superb since going there.

Again, just for the fullness...experienced players to help guide, lift, and lead these lads during a bad spell...anyone? There must be somebody out there in football land who wouldn't demand Lescott's wages or cost £10million that could do that Paul. He said he still had the Dempsey money available when the window ended last summer, he said he had more left but we'd be fine following the summer,

Because there is no way money was not available, so why didnt he use it? Don't want to admit he were wrong in the summer about these players being ready to cope on their own?

Is he unable to handle quality experienced players so surrounds himself with younger lads?

He constantly told press " we'll be fine , we won't go down- i just know it" .

Well we will soon find out if he is right or wrong .

You're right, he did go back to Wigan but again maybe he just fancied going back to somewhere familiar, or maybe he fucking hates us from his association with the Stripeys.

You keep insisting the money was there, but the only thing I'm 100% positive about is the fact you don't know.

[eastie]

Maybe, maybe not. The real issue is could we afford the wages? Probably not. That's the thing about having no money to spend, you go out and buy/loan players who were earning less than some posters on this site.

Im sure scharners not on more than warnock, sylla and dawkins combined - he would have been a loan deal so no big fee either and also a decent defender or midfielder - im sure lambert could have found a defender, maybe he relied on dunne being close to fitness and gambled?

He was a decent player, but he's knocking on, and for all we know we begged him to come but he chose Sunderland.

No he never, he went to wigan and has looked superb since going there.

Again, just for the fullness...experienced players to help guide, lift, and lead these lads during a bad spell...anyone? There must be somebody out there in football land who wouldn't demand Lescott's wages or cost £10million that could do that Paul. He said he still had the Dempsey money available when the window ended last summer, he said he had more left but we'd be fine following the summer,

Because there is no way money was not available, so why didnt he use it? Don't want to admit he were wrong in the summer about these players being ready to cope on their own?

Is he unable to handle quality experienced players so surrounds himself with younger lads?

He constantly told press " we'll be fine , we won't go down- i just know it" .

Well we will soon find out if he is right or wrong .

You're right, he did go back to Wigan but again maybe he just fancied going back to somewhere familiar, or maybe he fucking hates us from his association with the Stripeys.

You keep insisting the money was there, but the only thing I'm 100% positive about is the fact you don't know.

Lambert himself said he had money , not enough to compete with stoke or newcastle but we should at least compete with wigan and reading and saints.

He had money to at least sign scharner or others of that calibre and came out with the. " "experience guarantees nothing " line-  before bringing in 2 more players with no premiership experience making 9 signings who had never kicked a ball in the premiership - we needed at least one experienced head last month and he failed to deliver.

[LeeB]

But you don't know that.

[eastie]

But you don't know that.

He brought in 2 players who neither are in the 1st team and bought one of them as well as getting rid of warnock - so besides him saying he had money he spent money and saved money elsewhere on wages- he should have signed a defender , that was the priority!

[Risso]

But you don't know that.

If there was really no money available at all, then we should all be deeply concerned.  If no money was available, despite the obvious benefits that a central defender would have brought, then you have to worry about how we will fare in the championship.  If Lerner can't afford a few million depsite it potentiall costing upwards of £50m if we get relegated, then how will we manage in the Championship with a slashed income and lots of players like Shay Given still on long, expensive contracts.

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I will worry about how we will fare in the Championship when we play in it.

Which will be around the same time as Ragnarok, so who cares.

[Clampy]

There was money there for the likes of Sissoko but he wanted paying more than we could offer. Who the defender was and how much he wanted we'll never know.

[LeeB]

But you don't know that.

If there was really no money available at all, then we should all be deeply concerned.  If no money was available, despite the obvious benefits that a central defender would have brought, then you have to worry about how we will fare in the championship.  If Lerner can't afford a few million depsite it potentiall costing upwards of £50m if we get relegated, then how will we manage in the Championship with a slashed income and lots of players like Shay Given still on long, expensive contracts.

I don't think there is, and I am deeply worried.

The Given signing was just mental, considering the cuts we've applied since.

[eastie]

There was money there for the likes of Sissoko but he wanted paying more than we could offer. Who the defender was and how much he wanted we'll never know.

Sissoko refused to even speak to qpr either - i think he had set his mind on joining his french mates at newcastle as well as the great deal they offered him.

He has been outstanding for them so far and its a great shame we never got him.
I can understand not wanting to saddle ourselves with a £70k long term deal for players but considering the amount of cash lost if relegated you would think we would have at least been prepared to offer decent wages on a short term  loan and attract a couple of quality experienced players.

[pauliewalnuts]

But you don't know that.

If there was really no money available at all, then we should all be deeply concerned.  If no money was available, despite the obvious benefits that a central defender would have brought, then you have to worry about how we will fare in the championship.  If Lerner can't afford a few million depsite it potentiall costing upwards of £50m if we get relegated, then how will we manage in the Championship with a slashed income and lots of players like Shay Given still on long, expensive contracts.

I don't think there is, and I am deeply worried.

The Given signing was just mental, considering the cuts we've applied since.

I don't think there is, either, and ultimately, that is going to be the main thing which will continue to drag us down.

[pauliewalnuts]

When was the last time we actually sold a player?

Was it Collins in the summer?

Other than that, for a fair old while, they all seem to have been loaned into oblivion (Makoun, Warnock), or walked away for nowt (many examples).

You do have to wonder at the lack of brains upstairs to allow a squad to be depreciated like that. I'd have thought it'd be largely the job of Faulkner to manage the squad (as the consistent presence as managers change), and make sure that we handle players contract expiries / ongoing value to the best benefit of the club.

I reckon there has been absolutely none of that. Cuellar, Reo-Coker, Heskey, Beye, Warnock, Friedel, Makoun, Bouma, Harewood- has any club watched so many players soak up huge wage money and then leave for nothing?