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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847925 times)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3990 on: February 25, 2013, 12:52:00 PM »
Laudrup was my outside punt in 2010 post MON walk out, but I'd say if he leaves Swansea he'll have far better options than us now.  So how about Gregorio Manzano at Mallorca.

Has taken Sevilla and Atletico Madrid to 5th and 7th respectively, but is well used to operating on a budget at clubs such as Mallorca, Malaga (as was) and Valladolid.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3991 on: February 25, 2013, 12:59:06 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3992 on: February 25, 2013, 12:59:23 PM »
What about Bert Van Marwijk if we're going continental.  Flopped in the last Euros of course, but did very well before that, and was a success at club level.  Was rumoured to be earning a relative pittance as Dutch international manager. 

At last! A credible, although unlikely, option.

Knowing our luck though, he'd turn out to be the a dutch version of Steve McLaren.

I'd love if it he did a press conference in a cod-Brummie accent. 

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3993 on: February 25, 2013, 01:01:11 PM »
What about Bert Van Marwijk if we're going continental.  Flopped in the last Euros of course, but did very well before that, and was a success at club level.  Was rumoured to be earning a relative pittance as Dutch international manager. 

At last! A credible, although unlikely, option.

Knowing our luck though, he'd turn out to be the a dutch version of Steve McLaren.

I'd love if it he did a press conference in a cod-Brummie accent. 

"Wim pickarse elves up and gow egen"

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3994 on: February 25, 2013, 01:02:28 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3995 on: February 25, 2013, 01:04:18 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3996 on: February 25, 2013, 01:06:58 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.


I don't. TSM's spending was financed by Young leaving. Lambert had 20m net to spend. Only way Lambert's had it worse was Petrov wasn't available at all but 20m should get you a decent replacement

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3997 on: February 25, 2013, 01:10:58 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.


I don't. TSM's spending was financed by Young leaving. Lambert had 20m net to spend. Only way Lambert's had it worse was Petrov wasn't available at all but 20m should get you a decent replacement

So you're saying he should have spent all £20 million on a replacement for Petrov?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3998 on: February 25, 2013, 01:12:04 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.


I don't. TSM's spending was financed by Young leaving. Lambert had 20m net to spend. Only way Lambert's had it worse was Petrov wasn't available at all but 20m should get you a decent replacement

Yeah, well £20m quid would, but it won't when you have to spend it on several players.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3999 on: February 25, 2013, 01:12:59 PM »
It's not just a matter of strength of the playing squad when you judge the 'hand Lambert's been dealt'.  You also have to factor in how we were playing and the fact it takes time to change that.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4000 on: February 25, 2013, 01:15:46 PM »
Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.


I don't. TSM's spending was financed by Young leaving. Lambert had 20m net to spend. Only way Lambert's had it worse was Petrov wasn't available at all but 20m should get you a decent replacement

So you're saying he should have spent all £20 million on a replacement for Petrov?


no, but 6m should have been enough. Some of his signings, well the impact they've made is negligable. Benteke, Westwood, Lowton, - still enough money to replace Petrov after they were bought.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 01:18:04 PM by Greg N'Ash »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4001 on: February 25, 2013, 01:23:31 PM »
I would agree with Lee.

Lambert has compounded the issue with his gung-ho tactics and naivety at times, with also his transfer market dealing in so far as he didn’t get the required players in through the middle, but this is just one side of the problem.

The fact he had only £23 million to spend to re-build a squad depleted after two previous years of chaos and miss-management at every level suggests that where we are should not come as too great a surprise.

His hand for my money, is worse than that of McLiesh.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4002 on: February 25, 2013, 01:25:39 PM »

Just as a matter of interest, what would those who want rid have expected as a minimum not to want Lambert out?

I'd give him a punt if we stay up seeing we didn't sack him when we should have. I didn't want him to fail and he's been dealt a similar hand as TSM  but you have to look at the evidence of your own eyes eventually

I disagree, I think his hand is considerably worse thanks to TSM.


I don't. TSM's spending was financed by Young leaving. Lambert had 20m net to spend. Only way Lambert's had it worse was Petrov wasn't available at all but 20m should get you a decent replacement

So you're saying he should have spent all £20 million on a replacement for Petrov?


no, but 6m should have been enough. Some of his signings, well the impact they've made is negligable. Benteke, Westwood, Lowton, - still enough money to replace Petrov after they were bought.

And Vlaar? Bennet also?

They may not have had the impact we hoped but we needed both and were shopping in the basement in Premiership terms.

I think his biggest error in terms of signings was El Amadi, who was to replace Petrov and despite looking promising at first has just got worse, but again with £2m spent it's not that surprising.

Basically, the whole "He's had £20m to spend" is laughable when it had to be spread so thinly. There's enough that's happened to make a reasonable case to get rid, but using that undermines your case.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 01:28:06 PM by LeeB »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4003 on: February 25, 2013, 01:28:22 PM »
I'm not sure how his lot can be compared to McLeish. After-all McLeish didn't have to follow himself in!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #4004 on: February 25, 2013, 01:29:05 PM »
end of the day the money was there to replace petrov. Lambert's made some good signings but he's also made some arse ones

KEA - 2.5M
Bennett - 2.5m

5m just for starters

Bowery is one for the future but you could say with our strike force signing him was the wrong player at the wrong time. And Vlaar has made little impact even when he is fit. I make that the best part of 9m

 


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