Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[pauliewalnuts]

The thing people seem to not realise is that slating Lambert left, right and centre, then replying to the question with "who next" with "better than Lambert" is by their own definition, utterly meaningless and not good enough.

I'd say it's a pretty good starting point, replacing an underperforming/ incompetent employee with better. 

We might not be talking about the very cream, or a manager who targets CL qualification in 2/3 years anymore.  But -as Greg points out- there are quite a few who would back themselves to deliver more with the squad PL inherited in the summer plus the additional £20 million+ he had to spend.

Not sure I agree.

In one breath, Lambert is the worst manager we've ever had, in the next, "better than Lambert" is sufficient? Surely "better than Lambert" is meaningless if Lambert is so terrible?

Greg points out there are quite a few, but can't suggest a single viable name worth sacking Lambert and handing out a few more million in compensation for.

[PeterWithesShin]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

I've already said who I'd go for - Lambert - and explained why.

You keep saying Lambert is shit and no way should it be him, but can't name a single viable option.

The club could sack Lambert the day after the end of the season. Then the very next day, we'd need to start looking for a new manager. It isn't just "thank fuck he's gone, now everything will be alright", there needs to be a plan, so if you think Lambert is not the man, and you reckon there are 30 (last page) or 40 (this page) better options, surely it can't be that hard to suggest one?

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No, I want you to name just 3 you'd be okay with.

[pauliewalnuts]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

[Greg N'Ash]

The thing people seem to not realise is that slating Lambert left, right and centre, then replying to the question with "who next" with "better than Lambert" is by their own definition, utterly meaningless and not good enough.

I'd say it's a pretty good starting point, replacing an underperforming/ incompetent employee with better. 

We might not be talking about the very cream, or a manager who targets CL qualification in 2/3 years anymore.  But -as Greg points out- there are quite a few who would back themselves to deliver more with the squad PL inherited in the summer plus the additional £20 million+ he had to spend.

Not sure I agree.

In one breath, Lambert is the worst manager we've ever had, in the next, "better than Lambert" is sufficient? Surely "better than Lambert" is meaningless if Lambert is so terrible?

Greg points out there are quite a few, but can't suggest a single viable name worth sacking Lambert and handing out a few more million in compensation for.

So Steve Kean then. You would have kept him at blackburn like the owners did to save on compensation. Lambert would have a similar record to him, well worse actually.

[Greg N'Ash]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

[LeeB]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

No way can I support genetic splicing of onions and Thunderbirds puppets.

It's not natural.

[pauliewalnuts]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

Two issues with that.

One, last time he was managing, it was Chelsea, but now he's going to come to a Championship side? And can he organise a defence? He couldn't at Albion.

Let's have a few more, then. I don't think even Randy is thick enough to have a shortlist of one person.

I'll throw a few at you.

Phil Brown
Phil Parkinson
Billy Davies
Alan Curbishley.
Steve Bruce (although he's getting promoted, so would probably be out of our grasp)

How do those names strike you?

[PeterWithesShin]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

Okay that's one. How about 2 more that haven't been mentioned on here loads of times already? 

[pauliewalnuts]

The thing people seem to not realise is that slating Lambert left, right and centre, then replying to the question with "who next" with "better than Lambert" is by their own definition, utterly meaningless and not good enough.

I'd say it's a pretty good starting point, replacing an underperforming/ incompetent employee with better. 

We might not be talking about the very cream, or a manager who targets CL qualification in 2/3 years anymore.  But -as Greg points out- there are quite a few who would back themselves to deliver more with the squad PL inherited in the summer plus the additional £20 million+ he had to spend.

Not sure I agree.

In one breath, Lambert is the worst manager we've ever had, in the next, "better than Lambert" is sufficient? Surely "better than Lambert" is meaningless if Lambert is so terrible?

Greg points out there are quite a few, but can't suggest a single viable name worth sacking Lambert and handing out a few more million in compensation for.

So Steve Kean then. You would have kept him at blackburn like the owners did to save on compensation. Lambert would have a similar record to him, well worse actually.

I don't care about Blackburn, I don't care what reasons he stayed there or didn't, I am only concerned about who you get to replace Paul Lambert.

Oh hang on, is he one of your suggestions?

[pauliewalnuts]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

Okay that's one. How about 2 more that haven't been mentioned on here loads of times already? 

Steve Kean - Roy Keane dream team.

[PeterWithesShin]

My Forest mate loves Billy Davies. So if we did poach him I think he'd be livid. Which would amuse me as he took the piss out of McLeish last year, but went very quiet about him recently. No idea why.

[PeterWithesShin]

Steve Kean - Roy Keane dream team.

With Robbie as the first signing?

[Dave]

The thing people seem to not realise is that slating Lambert left, right and centre, then replying to the question with "who next" with "better than Lambert" is by their own definition, utterly meaningless and not good enough.

I'd say it's a pretty good starting point, replacing an underperforming/ incompetent employee with better. 

We might not be talking about the very cream, or a manager who targets CL qualification in 2/3 years anymore.  But -as Greg points out- there are quite a few who would back themselves to deliver more with the squad PL inherited in the summer plus the additional £20 million+ he had to spend.

Not sure I agree.

In one breath, Lambert is the worst manager we've ever had, in the next, "better than Lambert" is sufficient? Surely "better than Lambert" is meaningless if Lambert is so terrible?

Greg points out there are quite a few, but can't suggest a single viable name worth sacking Lambert and handing out a few more million in compensation for.

So Steve Kean then. You would have kept him at blackburn like the owners did to save on compensation. Lambert would have a similar record to him, well worse actually.

Good example Greg.

They fired him when Blackburn were second in the league and the knee-jerk manager that they brought in just because 'anyone would better' took them the bring of the relegation zone, so they had to fire him as well.

I'm not sure the above example really backs up your point all that well.

[Greg N'Ash]

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down

No. I don't want you to name managers who have managed to not get relegated with a squad worth £90m, at all.

I want you to suggest a few possible names to replace Lambert, should we get relegated.

Despite there apparently being 40 of them, you don't want to name a single one.

I've got a hunch on this, Greg. Call me overly suspicious, but I am starting to suspect the reason you don't want to put a few names forward is because, like me, you realise they will all be utterly shit, uninspiring lower leagues managers.

Go on then Di matteo?

Two issues with that.

One, last time he was managing, it was Chelsea, but now he's going to come to a Championship side? And can he organise a defence? He couldn't at Albion.

Let's have a few more, then. I don't think even Randy is thick enough to have a shortlist of one person.

I'll throw a few at you.

Phil Brown
Phil Parkinson
Billy Davies
Alan Curbishley.
Steve Bruce (although he's getting promoted, so would probably be out of our grasp)

How do those names strike you?

Di matteo for all his faults would still have a staggeringly better record than Lambert if he took us down. my vote is for Di matteo. As for the other names most of 'em would have a better record than a post-relegated lambchop. See its not hard to beat total failure.

[pauliewalnuts]

Di matteo for all his faults would still have a staggeringly better record than Lambert if he took us down. my vote is for Di matteo. As for the other names most of 'em would have a better record than a post-relegated lambchop. See its not hard to beat total failure.

How many times, though, Greg .... can't you see that going on and on about Lambert being the worst manager we've ever had, then in the next breath suggesting that "better than Lambert" is sufficient reason to sack him and employ them in his place is utterly meaningless - by your own definition?

Beating "total failure" can still be failure. I thought we were sick of that?