Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[pauliewalnuts]

Don't do it Greg.  Any name you say will be met with hoots of derision, don't give them the satisfaction.

I know. Shocking that if Lambert takes us down they'd want to keep a manager with a worse record than anyone comparable who's managed in the prem. Its like saying "who's better than Billy McNeil?"

Great.

However, that still does nothing to address the fact that, were we relegated, we'd spend the summer with Lerner and Faulkner again choosing a new manager, and doing so on the basis that we would not be in the top flight any more.

And what's more, I'd imagine Randy, having not put his hand in his pocket to buy the CB who might have kept us ip in January, is not going to suddenly start to spunk money into the club at this point, so it'll have to be a financially cheap option, as we'll have paid millions to get shot of Lambert, Culverhouse, Karsa and co, and will have to find money to make the new man available.

Serious question - Lerner will have a short list of four or five, which sort of names do you think will be on there?

If it makes it easier, I'll tell you the calibre of the sort of manager I reckon he'd have on there.

It'd be the likes of Curbishley, Phil Parkinson, Billy Davies. Those sort of names

So, unless you can come up with some more convincing names, do you really think it'd be worth spending millions of pounds to get rid of the current management team to get any of those in, and to once more go through the process of a new manager with a new style and wanting different players?

what squad do you think Lambert will be managing? Not the present one with all its weaknesses but a far far worse one. Anyone any good will be gone so you want Lambert to take us up with the likes of Ireland and the worse youth players? He can't motivate the current rabble so you fancy his chances with the dregs of this squad and him somehow finding journeymen championship players to get us up? He'll be lucky to get the money he had at Norwich. Need a wise old hand who can motivate players, not a charisma free zone

And once more, not a single name suggested.

I didn't say "Greg, tell us how shit Lambert is" - we all know the results, we all know how shit this season has been. The question was, who is a better option if we go down than that of keeping Lambert - and it needs to be someone who is better than Lambert plus the cost of however millions of pounds to get shot of him and get the new bloke in, because it isn't going to be a zero cost option.

[Risso]

Don't do it Greg.  Any name you say will be met with hoots of derision, don't give them the satisfaction.

There's a reason for that.

Namely that the few names you've garnered between you are fucking laughable.

So far we've had Keane, Allardyce and Alex McLeish.

I'd give it the Bradford boss before those three fucking stooges.

You'd have to be laughably dim to interpret any of the above posts as anybody actually wanting McLeish back.

[LeeB]

Don't know what made me think of this:

[Risso]

So, unless you can come up with some more convincing names, do you really think it'd be worth spending millions of pounds to get rid of the current management team to get any of those in, and to once more go through the process of a new manager with a new style and wanting different players?

You keep mentioning the fact that it would cost money to sack him, whilst apparently ignoring the cold hard truth that him taking us down will cost 10-20 times more at least. 

This is in the circumstances in which we're already down.

Maybe if we'd replaced the incompetent, muttering clown weeks ago those circumstances wouldn't come to pass.

[PeterWithesShin]

Don't do it Greg.  Any name you say will be met with hoots of derision, don't give them the satisfaction.

There's a reason for that.

Namely that the few names you've garnered between you are fucking laughable.

So far we've had Keane, Allardyce and Alex McLeish.

I'd give it the Bradford boss before those three fucking stooges.

You'd have to be laughably dim to interpret any of the above posts as anybody actually wanting McLeish back.

Not really. When the serious suggestions are Roy Keane and Allardyce believing they'd also be dim enough to want McLeish back as well isn't exactly a shock.

[LeeB]

Don't do it Greg.  Any name you say will be met with hoots of derision, don't give them the satisfaction.

There's a reason for that.

Namely that the few names you've garnered between you are fucking laughable.

So far we've had Keane, Allardyce and Alex McLeish.

I'd give it the Bradford boss before those three fucking stooges.

You'd have to be laughably dim to interpret any of the above posts as anybody actually wanting McLeish back.

As my clairvoyance skills are on the wane, I had to take the one name Greg actually mentioned.

You'd have to be laughably dim to suggest Roy Keane, but hey.

[Greg N'Ash]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

[SheffieldVillain]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

Roy Keane

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe if we'd replaced the incompetent, muttering clown weeks ago those circumstances wouldn't come to pass.

I disagree, but regardless of that, we didn't, did we?

[PeterWithesShin]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

So just name 3 of the 40 that you'd be okay with. That's all we ask. Once you do i'll name you 6 that I wouldn't be slashing my wrists over. How is that for a deal? 

[pauliewalnuts]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

I've already said who I'd go for - Lambert - and explained why.

You keep saying Lambert is shit and no way should it be him, but can't name a single viable option.

The club could sack Lambert the day after the end of the season. Then the very next day, we'd need to start looking for a new manager. It isn't just "thank fuck he's gone, now everything will be alright", there needs to be a plan, so if you think Lambert is not the man, and you reckon there are 30 (last page) or 40 (this page) better options, surely it can't be that hard to suggest one?

[Greg N'Ash]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

Roy Keane

heh. come on now. there's limits

[KevinGage]

The thing people seem to not realise is that slating Lambert left, right and centre, then replying to the question with "who next" with "better than Lambert" is by their own definition, utterly meaningless and not good enough.

I'd say it's a pretty good starting point, replacing an underperforming/ incompetent employee with better. 

We might not be talking about the very cream, or a manager who targets CL qualification in 2/3 years anymore.  But -as Greg points out- there are quite a few who would back themselves to deliver more with the squad PL inherited in the summer plus the additional £20 million+ he had to spend.

[LeeB]

So, unless you can come up with some more convincing names, do you really think it'd be worth spending millions of pounds to get rid of the current management team to get any of those in, and to once more go through the process of a new manager with a new style and wanting different players?

You keep mentioning the fact that it would cost money to sack him, whilst apparently ignoring the cold hard truth that him taking us down will cost 10-20 times more at least. 

This is in the circumstances in which we're already down.

Maybe if we'd replaced the incompetent, muttering clown weeks ago those circumstances wouldn't come to pass.

This is a thread about Lambert, there's plenty of opportunity off topic to talk about George Osborne and the credit rating.

[Greg N'Ash]

*sigh* If lambert takes us down there's literally 40 odd names, some that have already been mentioned who would on paper have a far better record than Lambert. Not many i'm particualrly enthusiastic about granted but poor is better than V.poor imo. If you are really that determined to rubbish a name then name one and i'll tell you if i'd rather have him in than lambert

I've already said who I'd go for - Lambert - and explained why.

You keep saying Lambert is shit and no way should it be him, but can't name a single viable option.

The club could sack Lambert the day after the end of the season. Then the very next day, we'd need to start looking for a new manager. It isn't just "thank fuck he's gone, now everything will be alright", there needs to be a plan, so if you think Lambert is not the man, and you reckon there are 30 (last page) or 40 (this page) better options, surely it can't be that hard to suggest one?

you want me to go through nearly every manager who's been in the premiership and is still working and who hasn't taken down a squad worth 90m? Surely there must be a name who you think is shit? Just name him and he'll get my support over Lambert if we go down