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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848148 times)

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3765 on: February 10, 2013, 03:15:47 AM »
244 in and 246 out. Closest it has been since the Newcastle game. How will it be later this afternoon?

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3766 on: February 10, 2013, 07:37:16 AM »
4 wins and 4 draws might just about be enough. That may be achievable whereas 5/6 wins is a big, big ask.

That would give us 37 but with our goal difference being so bad i think we need to aim for more.

I think 39 with our current GD is needed.

Offline j66acd

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3767 on: February 10, 2013, 08:05:14 AM »
4 wins and 4 draws might just about be enough. That may be achievable whereas 5/6 wins is a big, big ask.

That would give us 37 but with our goal difference being so bad i think we need to aim for more.

I think 39 with our current GD is needed.

What about 12 draws and one win?

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3768 on: February 10, 2013, 08:24:31 AM »
5 or 6 wins from 13 games is a lot to ask when we've only won 4 all season

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3769 on: February 10, 2013, 08:33:00 AM »
What we all need to remember is there is only a couple of pts between the bottom 4. So the other teams may require 5/6 wins as well. We may have only won 4 all season but Wigan and Reading have only won 5.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3770 on: February 10, 2013, 08:41:15 AM »
What we all need to remember is there is only a couple of pts between the bottom 4. So the other teams may require 5/6 wins as well. We may have only won 4 all season but Wigan and Reading have only won 5.

Reading have taken 10 points from the last 5 games and won 3 of them, we have only won 3 of our last 20 - we must turn it around starting today  .

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3771 on: February 10, 2013, 09:20:23 AM »
It's a dead heat! The fix is in: I declare shenanigans.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3772 on: February 10, 2013, 11:24:58 AM »
just voted out. Changed my mind with the failure to sign a defender. In the world of football, are you telling me that there is not a 29-33 year old experienced centre back sitting on the bench or the club wanting to get off wage bill, even for just 6 months?

Offline ez

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3773 on: February 10, 2013, 11:32:04 AM »
I only voted in because its too late to change manager now. It's not a vote of confidence.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3774 on: February 10, 2013, 12:26:43 PM »
It seems we have been doing this for how long - 10 years? That's a lot of different managers.

I don't think we're the only side in 10 years that have sat back and defended a lead when playing against teams of similar or superior ability. It's just the way the game works and the way humans work.

This. To carry on attacking when leading is nice in theory, but very often your ability to keep a lead depends on your ability to defend. I realise that a lot of this is about psychology and confidence, but I cannot help but think that the players would have been more confident in their defending in games if they received better coaching and clear instructions when training.

For years we have played counter-attacking football with the threat being when you break fast.  Opposition teams always have this in mind and do not over commit.  Some of the reasons for this are that we have not had quality creative midfield players who can put their foot on the ball and we compensate for average defenders by playing an extra central defender type of player at fullback or in midfield.

Once you stop looking to counter-attack you allow the opposition to throw everything at you.  In our case, it takes away our strength and exposes our weakness.  With the players we have, I think we need to keep on trying to attack from the first minute to the last to play the game away from our defence.  Also, as somebodey else commented, try and play the game further up the field.

Offline supertom

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3775 on: February 10, 2013, 12:55:55 PM »
If we lose today he should go immediately. We'd need a new man in sharpish. It might be too little too late, but I'd rather gamble on a new man than gamble on PL turning it around.
He should be playing for his job here today.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3776 on: February 10, 2013, 01:07:46 PM »
If we lose today he should go immediately. We'd need a new man in sharpish. It might be too little too late, but I'd rather gamble on a new man than gamble on PL turning it around.
He should be playing for his job here today.

Who would you have as a replacement - realistically?

Offline supertom

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3777 on: February 10, 2013, 01:31:36 PM »
If we lose today he should go immediately. We'd need a new man in sharpish. It might be too little too late, but I'd rather gamble on a new man than gamble on PL turning it around.
He should be playing for his job here today.

Who would you have as a replacement - realistically?
If we spend the money we might be able to tempt a good foreign coach to be an interim. Or domestically I'd probably take Curbishly's experience at the moment. Not brilliant but he couldn't possibly do any worse, so I'd give it a try. Maybe even JG as well. I dunno. Are there any international managers who might, if price be right, be willing to split the job with ours for the next 3 months whilst there's not many qualification games to distract. Louis Van Gaal comes to mind. Sven will do anything for a few bob, maybe 3 months here could be worked out. Granted he's not covered himself in glory in recent years, but he's got a lot of knowledge and could organise us.
Like I say, things can't get worse and if they show no signs of improving under PL, then I'd move now. If we end up down it won't be because we switched managers.

Offline rob_bridge

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3778 on: February 10, 2013, 01:44:59 PM »
If we lose today he should go immediately. We'd need a new man in sharpish. It might be too little too late, but I'd rather gamble on a new man than gamble on PL turning it around.
He should be playing for his job here today.

Who would you have as a replacement - realistically?
If we spend the money we might be able to tempt a good foreign coach to be an interim. Or domestically I'd probably take Curbishly's experience at the moment. Not brilliant but he couldn't possibly do any worse, so I'd give it a try. Maybe even JG as well. I dunno. Are there any international managers who might, if price be right, be willing to split the job with ours for the next 3 months whilst there's not many qualification games to distract. Louis Van Gaal comes to mind. Sven will do anything for a few bob, maybe 3 months here could be worked out. Granted he's not covered himself in glory in recent years, but he's got a lot of knowledge and could organise us.
Like I say, things can't get worse and if they show no signs of improving under PL, then I'd move now. If we end up down it won't be because we switched managers.

Sven you must be fucking joking. JG the same.

Curbs maybe as an interim / caretaker I'll grant you.

LVG - I said realistically.


Offline supertom

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3779 on: February 10, 2013, 03:34:38 PM »
Job safe for now.
N'Zogbia is hitting form at the right time, and Benteke is on fire too. Players are hitting form at the right time for PL now. Defenisively we're still shambolic though. Not bad today but we almost still blew it.
We just look like we've got goals in us now, which might be enough to see us through. There's enough attacking talent in our side to pull us clear, hopefully, with games to spare.

 


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