Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[MarkM]

I wouldn't have Mcleish back, I think we're forgetting last season. We're no worse off than that.

I wouldnt have him back either as mcleish was not the answer , neither is lambert though.
We are worse than last season as the league table, results, goal difference and points total will testify.

Might have something to do with the fact we lost our best midfielder and several other proven premier league players.

And replaced with.... Lambert spent the money and made his choices.

And as Eastie says its Lambert that got rid of Hutton, Collins and excluded Warnock

[Risso]

Hang on. You stated one extreme, I suggested the other and you blame me for not taking the middle ground? Pots and kettles.

 I'm an optimist and positive person by nature, however, I'm happy to acknowledge that there are a number of problems at the club. You, however, haven't posted anything positive and continually slate everything about the club. Don you ever see the middle ground? (I won't bother asking about any positives)

We have a great forward line in Benteke and Weimann, Gabby is back to something approaching what we know he is capable of, and N'Zogbia looks interested for once.  There, some positives.  However, our defence and midfield are criminally bad, and our manager worse than useless.  The fact that he had the whole of January to sort out one central defender but didn't speaks huge volumes about his ability.  And please note, that didn't need to be Samba on £125K a week, or Rio Ferdinand, or the defensive equivalent of Stephen Ireland.  Just somebody better than Clark, which gives you an awful lot of players to choose from.  And Lambert having a go at people for daring to suggest that we needed to get some experience in is beyond the pale. 

It's as clear as day we could do with someone more experienced than Clark and also in other areas, but if Lambert came out and said that now it would be a right kick in the knackers to the current squad and would be the equivalent of saying they're not good enough. I've no doubt you would have slagged him off whatever he said though.

Oh do piss off with your childish comments.

[Chris Smith]

I wouldn't have Mcleish back, I think we're forgetting last season. We're no worse off than that.

I wouldnt have him back either as mcleish was not the answer , neither is lambert though.
We are worse than last season as the league table, results, goal difference and points total will testify.

Might have something to do with the fact we lost our best midfielder and several other proven premier league players.

Petrov missed a fair chunk of last season as well- several other proven players like  who?
Collins was sold by lambert, hutton and warnock excluded by lambert - which several proven premiership players did we lose in the summer?

Last season and this we had big injury problems, but the formations, poor tactics and poor team selections are lamberts fault as are the training methods which see us so woeful on basic defending- stop making excuses for him .

He spent more in 2 moths here than he did in 3 years at norwich , he is well paid and its time he did his job properly rather than bleat to the press and hide behind excuse after excuse.

That's just rubbish. What excuses does he make? As far as I can see he's always sticking up for his players and not taking the easy way out of blaming them for results.

He might have made mistakes but he's on the thin end of several years of mistakes at the club and deserves to be cut some slack. I'm amazed that you haven't learned your lesson. You keep calling for managers to be sacked but things don't get any better. Isn't it time to reconsider your approach?

[Jockey Randall]

I wouldn't have Mcleish back, I think we're forgetting last season. We're no worse off than that.

I wouldnt have him back either as mcleish was not the answer , neither is lambert though.
We are worse than last season as the league table, results, goal difference and points total will testify.

Might have something to do with the fact we lost our best midfielder and several other proven premier league players.

Petrov missed a fair chunk of last season as well- several other proven players like  who?
Collins was sold by lambert, hutton and warnock excluded by lambert - which several proven premiership players did we lose in the summer?

Last season and this we had big injury problems, but the formations, poor tactics and poor team selections are lamberts fault as are the training methods which see us so woeful on basic defending- stop making excuses for him .

He spent more in 2 months here than he did in 3 years at norwich , he is well paid and its time he did his job properly rather than bleat to the press and hide behind excuse after excuse.

Petrov made 25 starts last season in the league. I'd say that's more than enough to have a good bearing on our outcome come the end of the season.

On top of those guys you've mentioned we also lost Cuellar and obviously the lesser missed Heskey. Add to those the fact that Dunne has been unavailable all season and you've got pretty big gaps to fill no?

In an ideal world I'm sure he would have kept Collins, Warnock and Hutton this season but Collins leaving gave us the opportunity to get Vlaar in on by all accounts substantially less wages, and the other two were sacrificed to free up more wages so we could add to the extremely thin squad.

Looking at where we were last season and the loss of quality from the starting 11 let alone the squad I would say a relegation battle looked more or less assured unless we were going to throw substantially more at it in terms of both transfer fees and wages.

[dave.woodhall]

Hang on. You stated one extreme, I suggested the other and you blame me for not taking the middle ground? Pots and kettles.

 I'm an optimist and positive person by nature, however, I'm happy to acknowledge that there are a number of problems at the club. You, however, haven't posted anything positive and continually slate everything about the club. Don you ever see the middle ground? (I won't bother asking about any positives)

We have a great forward line in Benteke and Weimann, Gabby is back to something approaching what we know he is capable of, and N'Zogbia looks interested for once.  There, some positives.  However, our defence and midfield are criminally bad, and our manager worse than useless.  The fact that he had the whole of January to sort out one central defender but didn't speaks huge volumes about his ability.  And please note, that didn't need to be Samba on £125K a week, or Rio Ferdinand, or the defensive equivalent of Stephen Ireland.  Just somebody better than Clark, which gives you an awful lot of players to choose from.  And Lambert having a go at people for daring to suggest that we needed to get some experience in is beyond the pale. 

It's as clear as day we could do with someone more experienced than Clark and also in other areas, but if Lambert came out and said that now it would be a right kick in the knackers to the current squad and would be the equivalent of saying they're not good enough. I've no doubt you would have slagged him off whatever he said though.

Oh do piss off with your childish comments.

Behave. 

[Jockey Randall]

I wouldn't have Mcleish back, I think we're forgetting last season. We're no worse off than that.

I wouldnt have him back either as mcleish was not the answer , neither is lambert though.
We are worse than last season as the league table, results, goal difference and points total will testify.

Might have something to do with the fact we lost our best midfielder and several other proven premier league players.

Petrov missed a fair chunk of last season as well- several other proven players like  who?
Collins was sold by lambert, hutton and warnock excluded by lambert - which several proven premiership players did we lose in the summer?

Last season and this we had big injury problems, but the formations, poor tactics and poor team selections are lamberts fault as are the training methods which see us so woeful on basic defending- stop making excuses for him .

He spent more in 2 moths here than he did in 3 years at norwich , he is well paid and its time he did his job properly rather than bleat to the press and hide behind excuse after excuse.

That's just rubbish. What excuses does he make? As far as I can see he's always sticking up for his players and not taking the easy way out of blaming them for results.

He might have made mistakes but he's on the thin end of several years of mistakes at the club and deserves to be cut some slack. I'm amazed that you haven't learned your lesson. You keep calling for managers to be sacked but things don't get any better. Isn't it time to reconsider your approach?

Quite right. The only road out of our situation is long term stability. Not sacking managers everytime the going gets tough. Whether that means a trip to the Championship or not we'll be much better off sticking by a manager who has proven that given time and not massive but sufficient funds that he can build a decent premier league side and has an eye for players who are capable of stepping up a level. It's all about building for the future for me.

[Risso]

Building for the future by getting relegated is just about the most stupid idea there is.  It greatly reduces your income, both in absolute terms and relative to the Premier League, and also makes hanging on to good young players like Benteke incredibly difficult.  If you want stability relegation is just about the worst way to go about it.  And with two seasons in the Premier League and one of those looking likely to end in relegation, Lambert certainly hasn't proved he can build a decent Premier League team at all.

[Dave Clark Five]

I can't see any advantage in getting relegated JR.
We would struggle to get out of that division with this squad. How we will manage to stay in this one, I don't know. Maybe we need a bit of luck. No more injuries would be a start.

[KevinGage]

I'm at the stage where I'd almost consider Allardyce.

He joined Blackburn when they were in a spot of bother and kept them up.   Style of football is obviously an issue, but on the few occasions I've seen West Ham this year, they are no worse on the eye than us.

We might have 10-15 minute spells of trying to knock it around, but we're not exactly Cruyff's Holland.

Someone like Sam Allthepies might still be able to utilize the attacking threat we possess, whilst also giving us more organisation at the back.  Either Lambert has tried and failed with the latter, or he hasn't even tried.   We haven't improved at set pieces, still concede late goals and Bennett still gets picked despite the world and his wife knowing we are vulnerable down that side.

[Jockey Randall]

Of course no one wants us relegated and we all hope it won't come to that but building for the future is just about the only option we have on the money available. The only other one is spend money we don't have and risk paying consequences further down the line which could see us in a far worse situation than we currently are. We've tried that in recent times and looked what's happened.

[eastie]

I wouldn't have Mcleish back, I think we're forgetting last season. We're no worse off than that.

I wouldnt have him back either as mcleish was not the answer , neither is lambert though.
We are worse than last season as the league table, results, goal difference and points total will testify.

Might have something to do with the fact we lost our best midfielder and several other proven premier league players.

Petrov missed a fair chunk of last season as well- several other proven players like  who?
Collins was sold by lambert, hutton and warnock excluded by lambert - which several proven premiership players did we lose in the summer?

Last season and this we had big injury problems, but the formations, poor tactics and poor team selections are lamberts fault as are the training methods which see us so woeful on basic defending- stop making excuses for him .

He spent more in 2 moths here than he did in 3 years at norwich , he is well paid and its time he did his job properly rather than bleat to the press and hide behind excuse after excuse.

That's just rubbish. What excuses does he make? As far as I can see he's always sticking up for his players and not taking the easy way out of blaming them for results.

He might have made mistakes but he's on the thin end of several years of mistakes at the club and deserves to be cut some slack. I'm amazed that you haven't learned your lesson. You keep calling for managers to be sacked but things don't get any better. Isn't it time to reconsider your approach?

Long term stability yes, but only if its the right manager - this is not the right man in any shape of form .
I admire your loyalty to managers chris , but all of those in recent years you have backed have failed to a lesser degree- i do see your point and disagree that lambert deserves some slack- in fact at many other clubs he would have been sacked a month ago .

He has spent more in 2 months here than in 3 years at norwich , brought in 10 of his own players and should be judged on the appalling results.

[Pete3206]

Jockey, Is that the one where we bought Darren Bent and he scored the goals that took us up to 9th? Those sorts of consequences?

[eastie]

I'm at the stage where I'd almost consider Allardyce.

He joined Blackburn when they were in a spot of bother and kept them up.   Style of football is obviously an issue, but on the few occasions I've seen West Ham this year, they are no worse on the eye than us.

We might have 10-15 minute spells of trying to knock it around, but we're not exactly Cruyff's Holland.

Someone like Sam Allthepies might still be able to utilize the attacking threat we possess, whilst also giving us more organisation at the back.  Either Lambert has tried and failed with the latter, or he hasn't even tried.   We haven't improved at set pieces, still concede late goals and Bennett still gets picked despite the world and his wife knowing we are vulnerable down that side.

No fan of big sam but he would be a huge improvement on lambert.

[ozzjim]

Get a grip of yourselves wanting Allardyce. Seriously, the man is a tool. Lambert is not up to the job, but no thanks to Allardyce!!

Much prefer Adkins or even Curbishley.

[Legion]

No, no and no.