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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848128 times)

Offline django

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3555 on: February 02, 2013, 01:14:41 PM »
Fair enough Brian, but I don't think the decisions on Lamberts part have been 'inexplicable', misjudged and wrong at times definitely.

The off the pitch stuff from Randy, the speed at which the tap has been switched off, the out of control spending in the gamble for the top 4 is a bit more mystifying. But again I don't think most people (particularly ones without much knowledge of football) would have predicted the almost total lack of return we would get on the spending he did make.

I think where we are is down to a sustained combination of incompetence and reasonable judgements that have spectacularly failed to come good.

Unless I saw evidence of suspicious betting patterns etc I just can't imagine it being anything along those lines, and I'm a cynic by nature.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3556 on: February 02, 2013, 01:15:33 PM »
i posted a few weeks ago that the guy i know who knows PK told me no money in January unless the big wage hogs left and to a lare extent that has proved true.Why Randy is refusing/reluctant to pump significant further funds ino the club is anyone's guess. only he and his monkey know for sure. My guess is that he's hoping against hope we stay up and will make a concerted effort to sell Villa up in the summer preferably as an EPL club

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3557 on: February 02, 2013, 01:16:51 PM »
Django, I have very good connections at Norwich and I have very strong reasons which I will not disclose to believe what I said about not enough effort or indeed any effort being made on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day to address the damage done by the Chelsea defeat on our young players is true.

As for things stacking up, my other love is horse racing.   In that sport disciplinary proceedings, for example those instigated against Michael Chopra and to which he pleaded guilty, are triggered by what is called "irregular patterns of activity".

I am not suggesting or inferring any wrongdoing by anybody all I am saying is that the sort of inexplicable decisions made by Villa of late, if they were made by, say, a racehorse owner or trainer, they would fall squarely into the category of an irregular pattern of activity.

Its my understanding that while the players trained on christmas morning lambert gave himself the day  off with his family.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3558 on: February 02, 2013, 01:17:13 PM »
earlier post  should obviously have read PF

Offline django

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3559 on: February 02, 2013, 01:19:31 PM »
Why is it so hard for people to believe that we haven't got any money? Because Eastie and Greg say we did have?

Because our owner, who is already a billionaire recently saw his own personal fortune increase by another 300m.

HE, could put in whatever he likes from that and it'd be like me giving my nephew 50p for a pack of Match Attax. It tells me what kind of man/owner he is when he couldn't even spare say 10m of that VAST wealth to get HIS club a couple of much needed recruits to possibly save us



Ok, but if he doesn't want to spend it on Villa, i'm afraid Villa haven't got any money.

Whether he should give us the money is a different matter. As a Villa fan i feel he should, looking at other clubs who are in our financial/footballing situation i'm not so sure.

The words said to me last night from someone who would definately know were the board were 'exasperated and bewildered' at lamberts signings and the fact he did not spend the budget .
This has been passed to kendrick and nursey to ask lambert the question why?

Well I suppose you are privy to information that I'm not, so we're judging things differently based on that. I suppose under O'Leary we saw that type of brinkmanship and if it is the case that Lambert is running the team now based on protecting his reputation after he leaves then we are doomed.

Offline ChrissyPrice

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3560 on: February 02, 2013, 01:23:57 PM »
Oddly, while I think we need a change of boss to keep us up, if and when we do go down I'd like to see if Lambert could build a decent team to get us out of the Championship.

But if he really hasn't spent the money available then serious questions do need to be asked, although I suspect we'll never know the full story.

Offline Merv

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3561 on: February 02, 2013, 01:28:27 PM »
We need to realise there is a difference between Lerner's wealth and what is available for Villa. Not the same thing...

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3562 on: February 02, 2013, 01:32:53 PM »
We need to realise there is a difference between Lerner's wealth and what is available for Villa. Not the same thing...

Not really no. It's his money, and this is his club. He can spend it or not spend it. There's nothing stopping him if that's what you're hinting at ?

It's his personal choice

I invest my money in my business.

Offline stuart r

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3563 on: February 02, 2013, 01:33:33 PM »
earlier post  should obviously have read PF

Glad you posted that. I've been scratching my head but didn't want to ask for fear of exposing my lack of knowledge about the club.

I watched the film Moneyball last night, about a coach who refuses to change his methods despite criticism from all angles. P'raps Lambert is our Brad Pitt and everything is gonna be ok.

Offline django

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3564 on: February 02, 2013, 01:41:38 PM »
We need to realise there is a difference between Lerner's wealth and what is available for Villa. Not the same thing...

Not really no. It's his money, and this is his club. He can spend it or not spend it. There's nothing stopping him if that's what you're hinting at ?

It's his personal choice

I invest my money in my business.

Richard Branson could afford to buy all the Virgin Trains passengers a coffee and a doughnut, it's his choice, and he choses to run it like a business, not as a way of making other people happy. You invest money in your business but presumably you are getting something back and weighing up what it's worth putting in. I imagine you are not spending your money on liabilities that could drive you out of business, and wouldn't do so, however much your customers would prefer you to.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3565 on: February 02, 2013, 01:45:36 PM »
We need to realise there is a difference between Lerner's wealth and what is available for Villa. Not the same thing...

Not really no. It's his money, and this is his club. He can spend it or not spend it. There's nothing stopping him if that's what you're hinting at ?

It's his personal choice

I invest my money in my business.

Richard Branson could afford to buy all the Virgin Trains passengers a coffee and a doughnut, it's his choice, and he choses to run it like a business, not as a way of making other people happy. You invest money in your business but presumably you are getting something back and weighing up what it's worth putting in. I imagine you are not spending your money on liabilities that could drive you out of business, and wouldn't do so, however much your customers would prefer you to.

And there is the unpalatable truth, financially he's taken the view that we need to stand on our own two feet.

Offline brian green

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3566 on: February 02, 2013, 02:18:52 PM »
Your observations eastie are the core of the lost Christmas Day phenomenon.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3567 on: February 02, 2013, 05:03:57 PM »
Another surrender. Get him out.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3568 on: February 02, 2013, 05:04:03 PM »
What the hell is he playing up not even signing one defender this window?

Criminal that now our attacking players have turned up this season they're having to score 2s and 3s just to get a point out of the game given how useless our defence is.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3569 on: February 02, 2013, 05:06:45 PM »
It is absolutely criminal that again we've lost points to set piece defending, absolutely criminal. Ultimately it will send us down. We've scored 2 and 3 in our last two away games and not won either.

 


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