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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848034 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3465 on: February 01, 2013, 11:47:07 AM »
what's the point in replacing them with players who are of the same standard?

Shouldn't we try and find the decent young players that are out there, nurture and develop them and turn them into something better? Make a team rather than a bunch of money-grabbing, egocentric twats?

Of course we might get relegated (and it hasn't happened yet) and nobody wants that to happen but for the long-term health of the club we shouldn't deviate from the path we've chosen.



We've replaced bad players with younger players who at the moment, aren't even as good as those.  And yes we should deviate from the plan, because when we go down, the decent players who have got a taste for the Premier League are going to want to play in it still, and all the teams who haven't been relegated are going to come and take them off us, while we play in front of 25K crowds.

Offline MarkM

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3466 on: February 01, 2013, 12:00:42 PM »
Of course he thought he could keep us up, he wouldn't be worth his salt if he didn't, however, sometimes these things just don't work.


So what are you saying exactly, that we may well go down, lose our Premier Status and a lot of TV money but hey, that's ok because we've got a long term plan?

I don't give a shit about the money and when football becomes all about money, it's pointless; do you really go to the match to see how high we'll finish because it's worth more?


It should not be about money, however at the moment it is!

The cost to us of going down this season is massive and will leave is in a very difficult position if we go down.

The teams that finish bottom next season will be getting £65 million and with that they will look to invest to get back up, we will have very little with which to invest and will just end up as another Wolves.

If thats you idea of a long term strategy then its shit!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3467 on: February 01, 2013, 12:03:33 PM »
Drummond you're getting into an odd debate here. If our long term strategy doesn't include money and earning potential then Villa will cease to exist, it's as simple as that. It's not great but money and improvement based on that has be the centre piece of any plan.

Offline Jarpie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3468 on: February 01, 2013, 12:22:43 PM »
The more I watch Villa the more I think we're in the middle of a perfect storm with numerous factors contributing to our shortcomings.

1. Lambert. Tried to change to much too soon. Upset the senior pros (see Chelsea of last year). Only one year of premiership experience. Has a record of poor defensive organisation. Too stubborn to admit his errors.

2. Players. Too inexperienced at this level ( note - I did not say too young). Possible mutiny? Are Bent and Ireland being forced out along with Warnock and Hutton and are being disruptive influences? Results have led to confidence problems. Injuries to key players at key times.


3. Randy Lerner. Spending less money and time here than ever.

4. Fans. Week by week it seems the crowd sense impending doom and are more inclined to stay quiet/barrack than encourage the team. We're not stupid after all.


5. Almost forgot... The opposition, for the first time just about every club in relegation trouble seems to have money to burn and are strengthening at the exact time we can't (or won't).


It's a downward spiral alright. It would take something big to change our course now.

Changing too much too soon is probably one of the reasons we're struggling and I also think that he's not used to deal with the big players like Ireland, Bent, N'Zogbia etc and that's probably part of the reason why they haven't performed (except N'Zogbia lately who at least seems to be putting real effort).

All good and well, but most of those weren't performing before he even got here.  I'm sick of hearing people making excuses for players like Ireland (the formation doesn't suit him, the manager doesn't know how to deal with him) when in reality he is a work-shy waster who doesn't give a toss about the club.

Maybe, but his handling of Bent has been very odd, to say the least.

I have to agree with Ireland, in the fall he looked like he actually cared but then he seems to have lost his interest...again, although he really put effort against Bradford in second leg.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3469 on: February 01, 2013, 02:52:38 PM »
Well if you still wana see him go here is some twitter gossip for you

https://twitter.com/indykaila

Paul Lambert has been asked by the board to hand his resignation letter in. The board have a replacement already. Games being played #AVFC

I can't believe how the #AstonVilla board are not ready to pay out on Lambert sacking and are asking him to leave on his request. Shocking

Offline Jarpie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3470 on: February 01, 2013, 03:06:21 PM »
Well if you still wana see him go here is some twitter gossip for you

https://twitter.com/indykaila

Paul Lambert has been asked by the board to hand his resignation letter in. The board have a replacement already. Games being played #AVFC

I can't believe how the #AstonVilla board are not ready to pay out on Lambert sacking and are asking him to leave on his request. Shocking

"Not a journalist.Have you seen my grammar ? Working for well known sports broadcaster.Various contacts within the game.Love trading shares.Views are my own." I wouldn't put much trust on what he spouts.

Offline The Situation

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3471 on: February 01, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »
that guy on twitter must be bullshitting... right? seems to come out of nowhere and weird timing.

Offline Merv

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3472 on: February 01, 2013, 03:16:35 PM »
Oh. I follow this guy on Twitter. He actually calls a lot of things correctly. We'll see.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3473 on: February 01, 2013, 03:16:53 PM »
Who hands in their resignation letter nowadays? If the board want him gone then they would just fire him and pay him out. It's bollocks because he isn't resigning and I have no doubt the board don't have the finances or appetite to pay out yet another management team.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3474 on: February 01, 2013, 03:18:19 PM »
Oh. I follow this guy on Twitter. He actually calls a lot of things correctly. We'll see.


Just looked at his past seems genuine 26000 followers - i hope its true for villas sake . Very sceptical though until we hear more.

Looking at his record seems he's rarely wrong .
If randys using the cash left to negotiate his departure i would be happy .
« Last Edit: February 01, 2013, 03:19:53 PM by eastie »

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3475 on: February 01, 2013, 03:19:41 PM »
"Would you like to resign Paul?"

"Er, that'll cost me millions of quid, so no".

End.




Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3476 on: February 01, 2013, 03:22:13 PM »
Who hands in their resignation letter nowadays? If the board want him gone then they would just fire him and pay him out. It's bollocks because he isn't resigning and I have no doubt the board don't have the finances or appetite to pay out yet another management team.

It would be the old mutual consent bollocks - they can afford to pay him off .
Not that im saying i believe it - wishful thinking !

Offline achilles

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3477 on: February 01, 2013, 03:25:54 PM »
The timing of something like this would be ridiculous... oh its the Villa!

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3478 on: February 01, 2013, 03:28:38 PM »
Replacement lined  up you say , knowing our luck it would be steve kean ha!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3479 on: February 01, 2013, 03:37:44 PM »
It's clearly absolute bollocks.

 


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