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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847925 times)

Offline MarkM

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3270 on: January 29, 2013, 10:29:43 AM »
I'm bored of people saying 'he's shit, they're shit, we're down already' without being willing to accept there are any other factors and without conceding there are good points.

It's as if the world has ended.

At the moment, what our players need is support and guidance, you could see Bennett suffer against Bradford when the moans and groans started from the fans. He, amongst others need supporting rather than dismissing as being shit.

Some fans want Lambert out now and are (subconsciously or not) just coming out with that mantra regardless.

I like the way you use 'regardless' as if there aren't a multitude of reasons for wanting rid of our worst and most incompetent manager in living memory.

Incompetent is just your interpretation and takes no account of the circumstances he has had to deal with since his arrival. His record prior to joining us suggests he's a decent manager, so it's perfectly reasonable for a fair minded person to feel that he deserves to be given time.

It's my interpretation backed up by hard stats of the appalling job he's done since he's been here, after spending £20m+ on a squad that McLeish kept up.  Only one of the players he has bought has looked ready for the Premier League, and the more time he's given, the worse the mess he's getting us in to.  His record prior to joining us will be utterly irrelevant if he relegates us, as looks increasingly likely.  There are dozens of managers who have one or two good years before then disappearing down the proverbial shitter.  Lambert will be the next.  If we'd kept McLeish this season, and Lambert was having the results he's had this season, but at Norwich, who would be calling for him to be the new manager?  Absolutely nobody at all.  He's a laughing stock amongst fans of other teams, this will be the last big job he has, before slipping back into Phil Brown/Owen Coyle territory.

Look risso, i agree that lambert has been poor and i agree he should have been sacked but sadly randy has decided to stick by him and in that case we simply must get behind him and hope he turns it around - he aint going anywhere so like it or not we need to unite behind him - theres no other choice in the current situation.

That's probably what General Custers men said just before the Little Big Horn

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3271 on: January 29, 2013, 10:34:51 AM »
Probably right mark, but all the boos and protests in the world are not going to make randy sack him right now so best to put all our energy into getting behind the team - lets be clear i totally agree lambert should have been sacked by now on results alone but I have resigned myself to the fact it wont happen.

Our best hope is he spends the money he has well and brings in 2 or 3 quality players to improve the team.
Even if we lost 0-6 tonight he will not be sacked so we have no option but accept that.

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3272 on: January 29, 2013, 10:37:14 AM »
We don't have to accept anything of the sort eastie.  There isn't much we can do about it maybe, but we haven't got to like it.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3273 on: January 29, 2013, 10:39:11 AM »
We don't have to accept anything of the sort eastie.  There isn't much we can do about it maybe, but we haven't got to like it.

We havent got to like it , but we have got to live with it im afraid.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3274 on: January 29, 2013, 10:52:06 AM »
The fans have spent the whole season getting behind Lambert and the team even when we were 0-8 down to Chelsea and 3-0 to Wigan.Not to mention the incredible support at the home leg, followed up by practically selling out the allocation against Millwall only to be repaid by complete and utter ineptitude and being told on a daily basis that we are very unlikely to make any signings because Randy has made it practically impossible to, as in his wisdom he has decided to slam the brakes on spending on what can be described as the most critical point in Villas history.I think Jehovah would be struggling at the moment to be honest

Offline danlanza

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3275 on: January 29, 2013, 11:02:47 AM »
The fans have spent the whole season getting behind Lambert and the team even when we were 0-8 down to Chelsea and 3-0 to Wigan.Not to mention the incredible support at the home leg, followed up by practically selling out the allocation against Millwall only to be repaid by complete and utter ineptitude and being told on a daily basis that we are very unlikely to make any signings because Randy has made it practically impossible to, as in his wisdom he has decided to slam the brakes on spending on what can be described as the most critical point in Villas history.I think Jehovah would be struggling at the moment to be honest
I would like to Witness that.

Offline jonzy85

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3276 on: January 29, 2013, 02:38:31 PM »
Just saw this on the bbc -

If Premier League games ended at half-time, Villa would be sixth in the table (32 of the 44 goals they have conceded have been in the second half).

It's hard to know what to make of this. On the one hand, perhaps he is not too far off getting it right. On the other hand, why can't he do something about our inevitable second half collapse?


Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3277 on: January 29, 2013, 02:43:32 PM »
Just saw this on the bbc -

If Premier League games ended at half-time, Villa would be sixth in the table (32 of the 44 goals they have conceded have been in the second half).

It's hard to know what to make of this. On the one hand, perhaps he is not too far off getting it right. On the other hand, why can't he do something about our inevitable second half collapse?

More to the point, what the hell must he say at half-time????

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3278 on: January 29, 2013, 02:54:37 PM »
Exactly every match its the same the 2nd half we are useless.

Online LeeB

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3279 on: January 29, 2013, 03:01:37 PM »
We don't have to accept anything of the sort eastie.  There isn't much we can do about it maybe, but we haven't got to like it.

You are mental, but in a nice way.

Offline Nev

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3280 on: January 29, 2013, 03:03:31 PM »
Just saw this on the bbc -

If Premier League games ended at half-time, Villa would be sixth in the table (32 of the 44 goals they have conceded have been in the second half).

It's hard to know what to make of this. On the one hand, perhaps he is not too far off getting it right. On the other hand, why can't he do something about our inevitable second half collapse?

More to the point, what the hell must he say at half-time????

I know it's fairly flimsy evidence from what we see but I can hardly imagine that our dressing room is a barrel of laughs.

Offline Mr Diggles

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3281 on: January 29, 2013, 03:08:38 PM »
I imagine its more to do with the fact that any opposition we play always knows there is a way of getting back into the game. That statistic is actually very encouraging. It says the players are good enough but may be lack defensive organisation, but almost certainly lack experience.

Offline brian green

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3282 on: January 29, 2013, 06:23:04 PM »
I am with risso on this one.   I think we got behind the team and the manager last season in a very creditable way.   Despite the tabloid bollocks of us all hating TSM because he came with his knuckles dragging I think we gave him a fair shout right up to the Bolton game before we snapped and demanded his departure.

I have been to a lot of away games and I have never seen the away fans, who in my eyes are the heartbeat of the club, boo off the team and the manager the way we - yes I include myself - did at Millwall.   That game was one capitulation too far.

Getting behind the team at the moment is like knocking on your bedroom door while the next door neighbour is giving your wife one and saying "your dinner is on the table dear when you have quite finished".

There are times in your life when you say enough is enough and this is one of those times.

Only one man needs to get behind the team and the manager and he has flatly refused to do so.


Offline ozzjim

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3283 on: January 29, 2013, 07:07:44 PM »
Just saw this on the bbc -

If Premier League games ended at half-time, Villa would be sixth in the table (32 of the 44 goals they have conceded have been in the second half).

It's hard to know what to make of this. On the one hand, perhaps he is not too far off getting it right. On the other hand, why can't he do something about our inevitable second half collapse?

More to the point, what the hell must he say at half-time????

I know it's fairly flimsy evidence from what we see but I can hardly imagine that our dressing room is a barrel of laughs.

Let someone else talk at half time!

Or the kids tire and lose concentration.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3284 on: January 29, 2013, 07:41:44 PM »

Or the kids tire and lose concentration.

I do think that this is the problem.  Lambert sees it and brings on substitutes but the bench is so weak that it weakens the team rather than adding energy.

 


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