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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848191 times)

Offline Damo70

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3225 on: January 28, 2013, 10:40:28 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3226 on: January 28, 2013, 10:49:01 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3227 on: January 28, 2013, 11:04:51 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

I agree but I'm reserving final judgement until the window shuts.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3228 on: January 28, 2013, 11:07:06 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

This is what infuriates me so much. For all that we're crap, and for all the moans that this is the worst team to ever play football and Barnstonworth would beat us, there's not really much needs doing to improve them. One solid defender making one decent challenge in every game since the start of the month would have seen us five points better off, in one cup final and a non-league team away from the quarters of another.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3229 on: January 28, 2013, 11:15:24 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

This is what infuriates me so much. For all that we're crap, and for all the moans that this is the worst team to ever play football and Barnstonworth would beat us, there's not really much needs doing to improve them. One solid defender making one decent challenge in every game since the start of the month would have seen us five points better off, in one cup final and a non-league team away from the quarters of another.

Entirely agree, Dave, and Nev.

If the team needed really major surgery, it'd be more understandable, but it doesn't. A decent judge of players could probably go and get in the two players we need for considerably less than 10m.

We don't need any more untried youngsters, but we also don't necessarily need hugely paid internationals. It is the fact that the people running the club seemingly either can't spot this, or just don't care enough, that sticks in the craw.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3230 on: January 28, 2013, 11:18:34 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

This is what infuriates me so much. For all that we're crap, and for all the moans that this is the worst team to ever play football and Barnstonworth would beat us, there's not really much needs doing to improve them. One solid defender making one decent challenge in every game since the start of the month would have seen us five points better off, in one cup final and a non-league team away from the quarters of another.

Entirely agree, Dave, and Nev.

If the team needed really major surgery, it'd be more understandable, but it doesn't. A decent judge of players could probably go and get in the two players we need for considerably less than 10m.

We don't need any more untried youngsters, but we also don't necessarily need hugely paid internationals. It is the fact that the people running the club seemingly either can't spot this, or just don't care enough, that sticks in the craw.

I can only think it's a money issue.  Which flies in the face of what Randy did two years ago and the return of the extra PL cash next season.  I'm yet to get angry about it, but I am mightily confused!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3231 on: January 28, 2013, 11:19:45 AM »
Well Laughing Boy answered Kendrick's questions at the presser. Don't what he said yet though.....

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3232 on: January 28, 2013, 11:23:41 AM »
I had to do a lot of catching up on this thread since Saturday night. A few things confuse me. Why the clamour for Gregory to return but not Brian Little? I would class Guzan as a Lambert signing but does it matter? Since when has OGS become the new Brian Clough and into the bargain a Championship side become more of an attractive proposition than a Premier League side as far as he's concerned? My opinion is that the players aren't as bad as they are looking at the moment. A total lack of confidence is the problem. How did a side that nearly went down in '89 and looked like going down early in the next season finish second? Was it totally down to SGT playing three central defenders and sticking 'stix' on the wing? I think it was down to a team going on a run and gaining a huge amount of belief and confidence. What we do need is a couple of experienced players to help us till the end of the season at least. I seem to remember when Ferguson's policy of replacing BFR's old guard with youngsters started going wrong he brought in Mal Donaghy just for some short term experience. Just as when Jim Leighton's form and confidence was going down the pan he brought in the Luton reserve keeper who was experienced/gobby/'bit of a character'. We need a couple like that and it's Lambert's job to get them. Reo-Coker would be a start.

So little needs doing but so little is being done.

It's the shoulder shrugging acceptance and perceived abdication of responsibility that has got everyone so heated.

This is what infuriates me so much. For all that we're crap, and for all the moans that this is the worst team to ever play football and Barnstonworth would beat us, there's not really much needs doing to improve them. One solid defender making one decent challenge in every game since the start of the month would have seen us five points better off, in one cup final and a non-league team away from the quarters of another.

Which is what makes it so inexcusable. I would say a tall, experienced defender and a strong, experienced central midfielder would have made a difference in so many games this season. We could be three or four points better off by now and as we learned last year, every single point is crucial when a strugglign team gets to May.

Offline garyellis

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3233 on: January 28, 2013, 12:18:29 PM »
I guess all we can do now is wait to see what happens on Thursday. This can be the only defendable reason that the CEO has not made a statement to the fans.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3234 on: January 28, 2013, 12:34:21 PM »
I guess all we can do now is wait to see what happens on Thursday. This can be the only defendable reason that the CEO has not made a statement to the fans.

I'd like the CEO to say 'I'm off' Keep it short and sweet

Offline garyellis

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3235 on: January 28, 2013, 12:41:27 PM »
If we go down then he should be the first to leave he has been overseeing some 3 years of decline.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3236 on: January 28, 2013, 01:07:23 PM »
Well Laughing Boy answered Kendrick's questions at the presser. Don't what he said yet though.....
Here it is


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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3237 on: January 28, 2013, 01:12:18 PM »
Could we all stop saying "presser" like we're all seasoned newspaper hacks of 40 years.  Thank you.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3238 on: January 28, 2013, 01:15:44 PM »
I am still with keeping him after initially voting out but am very much on the fence with the inaction of the owner keeping me on Lambert's side. Just. I am hoping that his poor tactics, particularly mid-game changes are down to his inexperience and getting flustered in front of a baying crowd. If he can learn from that it will help unless his stubborness convinces him to continue in this manner.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #3239 on: January 28, 2013, 01:23:48 PM »
Thinking about it, I wonder if one of the reasons that Lambert is not under threat from Lerner, is because Lerner just cannot be arsed to have the hassle of looking for another manager.
We like to think that the Villa job is a privileged one, but if there is genuinely no money available, and if other managers have turned down the job because of this (even laughingly, or so we are told), then is Lambert safe because he is the only bugger prepared to work under those conditions and Lerner knows it ?
       

 


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