Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[pauliewalnuts]

re your last point, I totally agree, the club won't have done enough to keep us up. They've accepted it. They've surrendered. The transfer market activity shows that.

I also agree we need to improve substantially to stay up, we need to win four or five games, and currently it looks like that'd take us four years, not four months.

But once again, we sack the manager, we have to replace him, and who with? Is there anyone out there more likely to bring about that level of improvement?

My argument is that, at certain points this season - even this week - we have played a half here and there of very good football, of the type that, if we managed to string a couple together, would get us some decent results.

I would rather back the manager with £££ now and trust him to manage that than sack him, burn yet more money on compensation, and hope for the best with the new bloke.

You have a point, certainly, but it just seems counter-intuitive to me that we sack all the blokes who don't get us relegated and yet stick by the bloke who does / might.  I guess it's par for the course with this screwy club.

I just don't buy the argument that there are no alternatives, period.  Let's face it, world football is overflowing with alternatives.  I would hope (while accepting it is a faint hope) that the club has some sort of succession plan, in the event that Lambert falls under a bus / falls ill / turns out to be shit.

I don't buy either that Lambert is the only man who could bring us back up.  I know he's been dealt a rough hand at the Villa but some of his decision making has been terrible.  There are lots of managers out there who can get teams promoted - three of them do it every season.

I don't think he's the only man, far from it, I would never suggest that, but he's certainly the best qualified to start working on it quickly (in fact, he's already started his work), and keeping him means we hold on to money rather than spaffing it away compensating him.

I also agree, there are other managers out there who could get us back up, but you're relying on Randy Lerner and Paul Faulkner to identify him and get him in.

That alone is almost enough reason to stick with Lambert.

[pauliewalnuts]

I put in an earlier post I'd go back and get OGS. His style of play wouldn't be a million miles away from what PL is trying but failing  to implement.He could cut his teeth with us in the Championship

How does that work?

He didn't want to come here when we were in the Premier League, but he's going to fancy it with less money to spend, and starting in the Championship (and after another successful season with Molde)?

[hilts_coolerking]

That alone is almost enough reason to stick with Lambert.

It's about the worst possible reason there could be to stick with a manager, but sadly it is relevant at this club.

[saunders_heroes]

I'm amazed anyone can think that Vlaar, Lowton, Guzan and Westwood are a pile of shit.

Yes it's staggering isn't it! What with the wonderful consistent performances they've given this season.
PS - Claiming Guzan as Lambert signing is stretching it a bit. He was barely out the door for a fortnight.

He was out the door and gone. Lambert got him back.

So, you're sticking by your assertion that Vlaar, Lowton, Westwood and Guzan are all shite, are you?

Absolutely no chance is Guzan a Lambert signing. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. I wouldn't be surprised, in fact I'm convinced It was the decision of Lerner/Faulkner to resign Guzan because they wanted Given out because of his high wages. It's not like they haven't a history of making football decisions. Didn't they sell Milner and sign Ireland without a manager at the club?

[pauliewalnuts]

That alone is almost enough reason to stick with Lambert.

It's about the worst possible reason there could be to stick with a manager, but sadly it is relevant at this club.

We can't ignore it's not a factor.

it was their stupid inability to realise that continuity has a value that saw them losing Houllier, looking at Martinez, then flitting to McLeish, which started this juggernaut of doom rolling so unstoppably.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm amazed anyone can think that Vlaar, Lowton, Guzan and Westwood are a pile of shit.

Yes it's staggering isn't it! What with the wonderful consistent performances they've given this season.
PS - Claiming Guzan as Lambert signing is stretching it a bit. He was barely out the door for a fortnight.

He was out the door and gone. Lambert got him back.

So, you're sticking by your assertion that Vlaar, Lowton, Westwood and Guzan are all shite, are you?

Absolutely no chance is Guzan a Lambert signing. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. I wouldn't be surprised, in fact I'm convinced It was the decision of Lerner/Faulkner to resign Guzan because they wanted Given out because of his high wages. It's not like they haven't a history of making football decisions. Didn't they sell Milner and sign Ireland without a manager at the club?

I don't really care if Guzan is or is not a Lambert signing, to be honest, but I think if you google around, you'll find that one of the first things Lambert did was to get him back.

he actually didn't even realise he'd been allowed to walk away at first, which says all you need to know about Lerner and the Boy Blunder.

[hilts_coolerking]

How does that work?

He didn't want to come here when we were in the Premier League, but he's going to fancy it with less money to spend, and starting in the Championship (and after another successful season with Molde)?

Less pressure, less attention.

[saunders_heroes]

I'm amazed anyone can think that Vlaar, Lowton, Guzan and Westwood are a pile of shit.

Yes it's staggering isn't it! What with the wonderful consistent performances they've given this season.
PS - Claiming Guzan as Lambert signing is stretching it a bit. He was barely out the door for a fortnight.

Saunders you're wrong about all of them, they're not shit at all. Vlaar when match fit is a good player, Lowton has been very good but is tired and Westwood looks a great prospect. I agree that Lambert's defending and tactics have been woeful a lot of the time but most of his signings look good.

Vlaar's made mistakes all season. How you can claim most of Lambert's signings have looked good is beyond me.

[pauliewalnuts]

How does that work?

He didn't want to come here when we were in the Premier League, but he's going to fancy it with less money to spend, and starting in the Championship (and after another successful season with Molde)?

Less pressure, less attention.

That sounds a bit barrel-scrapey, to be honest.

[Dave Clark Five]

I'm amazed anyone can think that Vlaar, Lowton, Guzan and Westwood are a pile of shit.

Yes it's staggering isn't it! What with the wonderful consistent performances they've given this season.
PS - Claiming Guzan as Lambert signing is stretching it a bit. He was barely out the door for a fortnight.

Saunders you're wrong about all of them, they're not shit at all. Vlaar when match fit is a good player, Lowton has been very good but is tired and Westwood looks a great prospect. I agree that Lambert's defending and tactics have been woeful a lot of the time but most of his signings look good.

Vlaar's made mistakes all season. How you can claim most of Lambert's signings have looked good is beyond me.

Maybe if Vlaar hadn't been injured for weeks, you would have a point.

[Lastfootstamper]

My scrolling thumb is begging you all to quit the bloody quotathons. Please!

I now have a discernible groove down the right-hand side of my screen

[PaulWinch again]

I'm amazed anyone can think that Vlaar, Lowton, Guzan and Westwood are a pile of shit.

Yes it's staggering isn't it! What with the wonderful consistent performances they've given this season.
PS - Claiming Guzan as Lambert signing is stretching it a bit. He was barely out the door for a fortnight.

Saunders you're wrong about all of them, they're not shit at all. Vlaar when match fit is a good player, Lowton has been very good but is tired and Westwood looks a great prospect. I agree that Lambert's defending and tactics have been woeful a lot of the time but most of his signings look good.

Vlaar's made mistakes all season. How you can claim most of Lambert's signings have looked good is beyond me.

Maybe if Vlaar hadn't been injured for weeks, you would have a point.

Indeed and Lowton has been good, but needs a break.

[saunders_heroes]

Serious question - what is Lambert good at? I have heard some fairly specific criticisms but all the support seems a bit generalised. As a fence sitter who's losing faith, why should I believe?

He's certainly not good at substitutions.

[PeterWithesShin]

Absolutely no chance is Guzan a Lambert signing.

Who was Guzan signed to when Lambert became manager?

[Dave Clark Five]

Serious question - what is Lambert good at? I have heard some fairly specific criticisms but all the support seems a bit generalised. As a fence sitter who's losing faith, why should I believe?

He's certainly not good at substitutions.

Ok. Now back to your slagging off of Ron Vlaar....