Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[saunders_heroes]

Curbishley is out of work, give it to him. John Gregory even.

[David_Nab]

Curbs saved West Ham from drop as I recall ,seen worse suggestions

[pauliewalnuts]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

[PaulWinch again]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

Indeed and it's largely irrelevant without some new players. These players will be relegated whoever is the manager.

[richtheholtender]

Want some sort of Villa connection. The manager throughout the 90's did, and since Gregory they have all just used us for a payoff.

[pauliewalnuts]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

Indeed and it's largely irrelevant without some new players. These players will be relegated whoever is the manager.

Exactly.

It's surely only a matter of time before someone starts calling for Avram "he almost won the champions league" Grant.

Lambert is a problem, clearly, but the bigger problem is the squad, and if the chairman won't do anything to improve it, we're fucked, regardless.

[saunders_heroes]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

He'd still do a better job than Lambert.

[Risso]

Keeping Lambert is certain suicide, there's no belief left in either him or the squad.  We need someone with a bit of fight, spirit and organisational ability.  Neville isn't a bad shout actually.

[pauliewalnuts]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

He'd still do a better job than Lambert.

And if Lambert is doing as bad a job as you think he is, that's utterly meaningless.

If we replace Lambert, we don't need someone who'll do "better", we need someone who'll do "good enough". Two totally different things.

[saunders_heroes]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

Indeed and it's largely irrelevant without some new players. These players will be relegated whoever is the manager.

Exactly.

It's surely only a matter of time before someone starts calling for Avram "he almost won the champions league" Grant.

Lambert is a problem, clearly, but the bigger problem is the squad, and if the chairman won't do anything to improve it, we're fucked, regardless.

It hasn't been unknown in the world of football for a new manager to come in and raise the game of even the most appalling squads of players.
I think most of us realise we're doomed to relegation under the hapless Lambert, so why not take a chance? It's worth a shot.

[pauliewalnuts]

Keeping Lambert is certain suicide, there's no belief left in either him or the squad.  We need someone with a bit of fight, spirit and organisational ability.  Neville isn't a bad shout actually.

Leaving my views on Lambert to one side, and ignoring the circumstances which have brought us here, I genuinely don't think there's a manager around who could turn this around.

We've been kidding ourselves about a few things for way too long. First among which is the quality of the kids coming through the academy.

Baker and Weimann look good enough. The rest of them have shown nothing like enough. You have to wonder about the likes of Bannan. He was starting matches under Houllier, two entire years ago, FFS.

[pauliewalnuts]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

Indeed and it's largely irrelevant without some new players. These players will be relegated whoever is the manager.

Exactly.

It's surely only a matter of time before someone starts calling for Avram "he almost won the champions league" Grant.

Lambert is a problem, clearly, but the bigger problem is the squad, and if the chairman won't do anything to improve it, we're fucked, regardless.

It hasn't been unknown in the world of football for a new manager to come in and raise the game of even the most appalling squads of players.
I think most of us realise we're doomed to relegation under the hapless Lambert, so why not take a chance? It's worth a shot.

If we are going to take a shot, why not take one on the basis of something better than "he can't be any worse".

You are right, some times a new manager comes in and improves things, but generally that's because the new manager knows what he's doing, and not because he used to play for the club in question, or managed them 15 years ago.

[saunders_heroes]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

He'd still do a better job than Lambert.

And if Lambert is doing as bad a job as you think he is, that's utterly meaningless.

If we replace Lambert, we don't need someone who'll do "better", we need someone who'll do "good enough". Two totally different things.

He IS doing  a bad job, that surely isn't up for debate?
I don't understand your second bit though. If we replace Lambert with someone who comes in and does better than him then surely he's good enough.

[KRS]

This inaudible mumbling tactically clueless numpty bought into a vision of managing a rabble of cheap young championship quality players and turning them into Premier League standard team whilst competing with more experienced managers being bank rolled by owners who are prepared to compete financially on and off the pitch.

Lambert has set record after record of failings for Aston Villa in his short spell here, and made us a laughing stock with the most humiliating and embarrassing set of results I can remember in my time as a fan of this once great club. Keeping him as manager will only result in relegation, so unless the owners plan is to get relegated and let this club sink in the Championship then Lambert must go and be replaced...we've got absolutely nothing to lose by giving another manager the chance to rescue us from certain relegation.

[saunders_heroes]

Christ almighty.

Curbishley? He who has been sat at home watching SSN for the last five years?

I understand people want the manager replaced, but surely if we're going to do that, it should be with someone who can bring about some sort of long term plan, rather than someone chosen on an emotional "well, they could hardly be worse" basis?

Indeed and it's largely irrelevant without some new players. These players will be relegated whoever is the manager.

Exactly.

It's surely only a matter of time before someone starts calling for Avram "he almost won the champions league" Grant.

Lambert is a problem, clearly, but the bigger problem is the squad, and if the chairman won't do anything to improve it, we're fucked, regardless.

It hasn't been unknown in the world of football for a new manager to come in and raise the game of even the most appalling squads of players.
I think most of us realise we're doomed to relegation under the hapless Lambert, so why not take a chance? It's worth a shot.

If we are going to take a shot, why not take one on the basis of something better than "he can't be any worse".

You are right, some times a new manager comes in and improves things, but generally that's because the new manager knows what he's doing, and not because he used to play for the club in question, or managed them 15 years ago.

Desperate times, desperate measures. I see nothing from Lambert that tells me he'll get us out of this diabolical mess, so it's time for a change. We could still have a chance of getting out of this god awful situation.