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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847978 times)

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2715 on: January 24, 2013, 11:09:54 PM »
right, so he's got a job however shit he does? I take it back mike, you're right.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2716 on: January 24, 2013, 11:10:47 PM »
Never fail to resort to Alex McLeish when there is no other argument. He was a better manager than Lambert. The results prove it. You don't win the league by virtue of not having been associated with Small Heath.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2717 on: January 24, 2013, 11:12:57 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2718 on: January 24, 2013, 11:15:04 PM »
decent football? when? I have never seen a villa side so at sea than in the last month. Never.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2719 on: January 24, 2013, 11:16:13 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.
Points on the board.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2720 on: January 24, 2013, 11:18:46 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.
Points on the board.

It's not, though, Lambert has had five months, not a whole season, and even then, it is far from the only barometer. You also have to look at how the team is playing, what progress has been made that doesn't necessarily convert to points yet, and the conditions under which it is achieved.


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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2721 on: January 24, 2013, 11:22:01 PM »
If Lambert isn't failing, then I don't know how else you'd term it. This season has seen record defeats, an unprecedented cup upset, record lows in points gained and goals scored. Put all that in pot and you've got a complete and utter disaster with one conclusion.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2722 on: January 24, 2013, 11:22:51 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.
Points on the board.

It's not, though, Lambert has had five months, not a whole season, and even then, it is far from the only barometer. You also have to look at how the team is playing, what progress has been made that doesn't necessarily convert to points yet, and the conditions under which it is achieved.


Compare it with the same stage of the season then, when they had both had five months.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2723 on: January 24, 2013, 11:23:24 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.
Points on the board.

It's not, though, Lambert has had five months, not a whole season, and even then, it is far from the only barometer. You also have to look at how the team is playing, what progress has been made that doesn't necessarily convert to points yet, and the conditions under which it is achieved.



How the team have been playing - shite

what progress that has been made that doesn't necessarily convert to points - none at all

What conditions under which it has been achieved  - more injuries, but bigger squad to the tune of 20m

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2724 on: January 24, 2013, 11:26:30 PM »
The results don't prove anything until they've both had the same number of matches, and even then, you're judging purely on a points on the board basis, and even then it is premature.

Lambert has his problems and weaknesses, but McLeish, in less than one season, sapped my will to watch Villa more than any other manager.

Lambert is trying to get us playing decent football and winning matches, and failing.

McLeish didn't try, and failed.
Points on the board.

It's not, though, Lambert has had five months, not a whole season, and even then, it is far from the only barometer. You also have to look at how the team is playing, what progress has been made that doesn't necessarily convert to points yet, and the conditions under which it is achieved.


Compare it with the same stage of the season then, when they had both had five months.

Still not a direct comparison.

Lambert is dealing with the shite McLeish turned us into over the course of a season.

We may have had shit results, but we've played ten times as much actual football under Lambert than we did under McLeish.

There's a reason that, even with the dreadful results, he still gets decent support here (look at the poll), and it isn't because McLeish used to manage Small Heath, either.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2725 on: January 24, 2013, 11:29:46 PM »
hmmmm the poll where's he's lost 36% support in under a month?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2726 on: January 24, 2013, 11:33:38 PM »
Hasn't Lambert won more matches now at least than Eck did?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2727 on: January 24, 2013, 11:55:33 PM »
Hasn't Lambert won more matches now at least than Eck did?

Off the top of my head, he's won the same amount. (if you count all competitions this season, and only the league last year)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jans no
« Reply #2728 on: January 24, 2013, 11:58:39 PM »
Clutching at straws now.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2729 on: January 25, 2013, 12:00:02 AM »
hmmmm the poll where's he's lost 36% support in under a month?

The one where he still has the support of the majority of people on here, despite one of the worst runs of results the club has had for years.

That one.

 


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