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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847887 times)

Offline Jockey Randall

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2580 on: January 23, 2013, 06:04:58 PM »
I remember reading a part in Paul Merson's book where he said something along the lines of "you're splashing the cash a bit aren't you" to Gregory to which his response was "well if I don't the next guy will". He then went on to have a slight dig at Gregory for his shortsighted view and said Wenger was completely the opposite and ran his club like he was going to be there all his life.
Whatever happens this season I think sticking by the manager for a sustained period is the way to go and judging by his reluctance to sign players for the sake of it I hope this is what they've expressed to him.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2581 on: January 23, 2013, 06:08:19 PM »
I think it is essential that Clark is taken out of the firing line for his own sake, he looks rock bottom mentally. The thing is though, who on earth is there to come in?

I have still not got over the sight of 4 strikers continually stood motionless within the same 10yard surface area. I have never ever seen that in a professional game. There is only one person responsible for this, and that is the manager.  Thing is, if you were a player would you not just move out there give some option?!?! I would rather have Carruthers on one wing and N'Zog on the others, just to make things happen.

Whether you have cash to spend or you don't, you surely have some formation in mind and you "shoe horn" players there. This is basic yet is AWOL

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2582 on: January 23, 2013, 06:10:06 PM »
Westwood has demonstrably not been pants, Lowton started well but is suffering from the same confidence-deficiency as the rest of the team and looks lost, Benteke's obviously a real player. Joe Bennett, however, looks totally out of his depth at the minute, KEA started solidly but has gone completely off the boil, Vlaar's never really got started and I'm sorry, Jordan Bowery just looks like a League 2 striker.

I think Lambert has done enough in the past to show that he has genuine managerial qualities - I just think that we're totally the wrong fit, not least because our chairman is so utterly clueless.

He's done nothing at Villa to convince me that he's a good manager. He's wasted £20m+ on a bunch of no hopers, and Benteke. No more excuses for the man, he has to be sacked.

So £13 million on 7 players. Of whom most would agree the jury is still out on, Vlaar, lowton, Westwood. Bennett may not make it at this level, Guzan good, KEA has disappointed, but we would probably get our money back if he doesn't settle in. Bowery, hasn't had long enough for anyone to judge fairly.

Not too bad and better record in the market than any of our past few managers going back to Sir Graham pt 2. Which says a lot.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2583 on: January 23, 2013, 06:13:44 PM »
Westwood has demonstrably not been pants, Lowton started well but is suffering from the same confidence-deficiency as the rest of the team and looks lost, Benteke's obviously a real player. Joe Bennett, however, looks totally out of his depth at the minute, KEA started solidly but has gone completely off the boil, Vlaar's never really got started and I'm sorry, Jordan Bowery just looks like a League 2 striker.

I think Lambert has done enough in the past to show that he has genuine managerial qualities - I just think that we're totally the wrong fit, not least because our chairman is so utterly clueless.

He's done nothing at Villa to convince me that he's a good manager. He's wasted £20m+ on a bunch of no hopers, and Benteke. No more excuses for the man, he has to be sacked.

So £13 million on 7 players. Of whom most would agree the jury is still out on, Vlaar, lowton, Westwood. Bennett may not make it at this level, Guzan good, KEA has disappointed, but we would probably get our money back if he doesn't settle in. Bowery, hasn't had long enough for anyone to judge fairly.

Not too bad and better record in the market than any of our past few managers going back to Sir Graham pt 2. Which says a lot.

I think the jury's verdict is in. They're not good enough. How long do you give them? Till we're relegated?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2584 on: January 23, 2013, 06:21:36 PM »
Westwood has demonstrably not been pants, Lowton started well but is suffering from the same confidence-deficiency as the rest of the team and looks lost, Benteke's obviously a real player. Joe Bennett, however, looks totally out of his depth at the minute, KEA started solidly but has gone completely off the boil, Vlaar's never really got started and I'm sorry, Jordan Bowery just looks like a League 2 striker.

I think Lambert has done enough in the past to show that he has genuine managerial qualities - I just think that we're totally the wrong fit, not least because our chairman is so utterly clueless.

He's done nothing at Villa to convince me that he's a good manager. He's wasted £20m+ on a bunch of no hopers, and Benteke. No more excuses for the man, he has to be sacked.

So £13 million on 7 players. Of whom most would agree the jury is still out on, Vlaar, lowton, Westwood. Bennett may not make it at this level, Guzan good, KEA has disappointed, but we would probably get our money back if he doesn't settle in. Bowery, hasn't had long enough for anyone to judge fairly.

Not too bad and better record in the market than any of our past few managers going back to Sir Graham pt 2. Which says a lot.

I think the jury's verdict is in. They're not good enough. How long do you give them? Till we're relegated?


Ok, Saunders - who is our best right back, Hutton or Lowton? Centre mid, who is our best one? Best centre forward at the moment? Best centre half? Best keeper?

Truth is he spent well in the remit of the number of players we needed. The issue is that the players already here are shiny shite, and Lambert didn't factor that it. Put Dunne and Petrov in from game 1 this season I reckon we are 5-6 points better off. The players he signed are good players, we just need 2-3 shepherds to lead them through for a couple of seasons.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2585 on: January 23, 2013, 06:23:15 PM »
Well, I guess I'm judging our signings based on the financial realities we are working in. Check out the transfer thread, and it's full of suggestions of the players we should sign, and they are the same players Liverpool and spurs are after.

Westwood has stepped up 3 divisions and not looked too bad. Is it the level of performance I would like to see? Or have got used to since I started going down with my dad in 86-87? No. Do I think  he's looked good for where he came from and how much he cost? Yes.

I wish we wernt having to buy players from Crewe, but I can see that we do. I'm judging the transfers accordingly. Are they good enough to keep us in the league? We'll see, but moaning about them isn't going to make anything any better.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2586 on: January 23, 2013, 06:27:44 PM »
I think Westwood will definitely be good enough, Lowton will be but needs a break.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2587 on: January 23, 2013, 06:28:41 PM »
I also think that Lambert for the time being needs to overcome his stubbornness and we need Warnock and Bent in the team.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2588 on: January 23, 2013, 06:28:54 PM »
Lowton is a good player, but he is desperate for a break. Warnock and Hutton should be used for this purpose.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2589 on: January 23, 2013, 06:31:36 PM »
Lowton is a good player, but he is desperate for a break. Warnock and Hutton should be used for this purpose.

Too late, he's already alienated those two players. They may have been crap but unless they've been absolutely wankers behind scenes then their treatment has been pretty poor.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2590 on: January 23, 2013, 06:35:17 PM »
Lowton is a good player, but he is desperate for a break. Warnock and Hutton should be used for this purpose.

Too late, he's already alienated those two players. They may have been crap but unless they've been absolutely wankers behind scenes then their treatment has been pretty poor.

I think it is one of his biggest failings for me is handling of senior players here. Bent, Hutton and Warnock I think he thought he would be able to sell for a couple of million and about 12 million and use the money, and he is now lumbered with them. Warnock, as shit as he is, is probably our best left back still, and would probably do quite well in a 4-4-2 with Bennett in front of him down the left.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2591 on: January 23, 2013, 06:35:31 PM »
Lowton and Bennett, in my opinion, look really good going forward.

So, why do they look like they're afraid to go forward and look like they'll get a bollocking if they do. So many times last night it was crying out for them to go 10/20 yards more forward when we had the ball. It would've opened Brsdford up so much. Would've made the world if difference in the first half when we had so much possession. Bradford only had one forward which our two centre backs should (!!!!!!!) have coped with.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2592 on: January 23, 2013, 06:38:45 PM »
Warnock, Bent and Hutton should be in the team at the moment. I don't care about previous performance, but Lowton needs a break, Bennett shouldn't be starting all the time and Bent is a proven goal scorer.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2593 on: January 23, 2013, 06:39:56 PM »
Interestingly, the Bradford fans can see what's wrong..

http://www.claretandbanter.co.uk/threads/32878-Lambert-s-Foolball-Manager-Tactics

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2594 on: January 23, 2013, 06:40:11 PM »
Warnock, Bent and Hutton should be in the team at the moment. I don't care about previous performance, but Lowton needs a break, Bennett shouldn't be starting all the time and Bent is a proven goal scorer.

I disagree about Bennett. I think he could benefit from playing leftie field in a 4-4-2.

 


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