Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[Toronto Villa]

Norwich were knocked out of the cup by far worse than a fourth division team.

They beat us over two legs. That's unforgivable and much worse than Norwich's one off loss.

I think you missed the mischievous humour in Dave's post there old chap

[saunders_heroes]

Norwich were knocked out of the cup by far worse than a fourth division team.

They beat us over two legs. That's unforgivable and much worse than Norwich's one off loss.

I think you missed the mischievous humour in Dave's post there old chap

Ha!

[eastie]

It's a total red herring that sticking with the manager works.  Sticking with the right manager works.  Sticking with the wrong manager is asking for trouble.

Exactly hilts!

[Chris Smith]

It's a total red herring that sticking with the manager works.  Sticking with the right manager works.  Sticking with the wrong manager is asking for trouble.

Exactly hilts!

Lambert's previous record suggests he is, or at least could be, the right manager. We're going through a tough time at the moment but if we're always so short term in our outlook we'll never make any progress.

[Concrete John]

He's a very lucky man at the moment. There's no other club in the country producing such appalling results that haven't pulled the trigger.

Well the likes of Norwich and Newcastle are below us in the form table. And both of them have been knocked out of cups by pretty rubbish teams.

So there's a couple.

This is the thing for me.

There seems to be a host of posters on here falling over themselves to tell us how we're doomed to relegation.  I'm not saying things are acceptable at all, but we're outside the bottom three right now and have 15 games left to stay there/improve to a truely safe position.  We have the benefit of Dunne to come back to our most problematic area and still time to sign a player or two.

 

[saunders_heroes]

I wonder if the reason he hasn't been sacked is to do with Lerner's refusal to pay anymore compensation? Football managers in the past has the decency and dignity to resign when things went tits up. Now they stick around waiting to be sacked so they can suck every last penny out of the club. Modern day managers are every bit as unlikable as the modern day players are. 

[Greg N'Ash]

yep people have a blind spot with Lambert. Any of the previous encumbents with the same results would be under real pressure long before now. The thought of us doing a Blackburn and sticking with a complete joke to the end of the season and next is beyond embarrassing.

[PaulWinch again]

You know I wish I could care as little about Villa as our owner does, but unfortunately like everyone on here I am feeling so miserable at our decline. It isn't just last night, it's the past 3 years leading to all of this. If we had an owner with an ounce of sense he would see that if he wants to build a young team, you still need to invest or that young team will never come to fruition. Also if a young player isn't good enough you have to realise that and move on, which seems to be a problem at Villa.

[eastie]

yep people have a blind spot with Lambert. Any of the previous encumbents with the same results would be under real pressure long before now. The thought of us doing a Blackburn and sticking with a complete joke to the end of the season and next is beyond embarrassing.

Aint that the truth- embarrassing in the extreme- ive had fans of other clubs at work pleading for villa to keep lambert as they are loving the mess hes making of our club.

[Concrete John]

I wonder if the reason he hasn't been sacked is to do with Lerner's refusal to pay anymore compensation?

It could just as easily be that they see mitigating cirumstances to the recent performances and have faith in him and the long term plan to nurture youth while riding ourselves of expensive wasters. 

[paul_e]

It's a total red herring that sticking with the manager works.  Sticking with the right manager works.  Sticking with the wrong manager is asking for trouble.

Exactly hilts!

Lambert's previous record suggests he is, or at least could be, the right manager. We're going through a tough time at the moment but if we're always so short term in our outlook we'll never make any progress.

His previous record is mainly based around joining a club with the potential to do well and encouraging them to go for it, which he did very well with, but right now our momentum is going the other way and he doesn't seem to have the tactical knowledge to reverse that trend.  I said quite early in this thread that the relevance of the chelsea result lay entirely in our response to it.  That response has been to fall apart in the league and go out of the cup, in the semi final, to a league 2 side over 2 legs.  We all know a couple of extra players would help, and I'm firmly of the opinion that he would spend money reasonably well but I've lost the trust in him knowing how to respond to in game events, too often in this run his changes have weakened us.

[hilts_coolerking]

There seems to be a host of posters on here falling over themselves to tell us how we're doomed to relegation.  I'm not saying things are acceptable at all, but we're outside the bottom three right now and have 15 games left to stay there/improve to a truely safe position.  We have the benefit of Dunne to come back to our most problematic area and still time to sign a player or two.

Dunne alone isn't going to save this club from going down, even assuming he plays like the Dunne of three years ago which is a huge assumption.  The players took a hammer blow to their almost non-existent confidence last night and I wouldn't like to say where out next league win is going to come from.

You may be right, we may stay up by virtue of three clubs doing even worse than we do but our form over the last year has been so bad that we'll be relying on luck for that to happen.

[Concrete John]

There seems to be a host of posters on here falling over themselves to tell us how we're doomed to relegation.  I'm not saying things are acceptable at all, but we're outside the bottom three right now and have 15 games left to stay there/improve to a truely safe position.  We have the benefit of Dunne to come back to our most problematic area and still time to sign a player or two.

Dunne alone isn't going to save this club from going down, even assuming he plays like the Dunne of three years ago which is a huge assumption.  The players took a hammer blow to their almost non-existent confidence last night and I wouldn't like to say where out next league win is going to come from.

You may be right, we may stay up by virtue of three clubs doing even worse than we do but our form over the last year has been so bad that we'll be relying on luck for that to happen.

I agree it'll take more than Dunne, but for me he, or a player like him, would be a big piece of the solution. 

[PaulWinch again]

The clubs around us are at least trying to address their deficiencies, we are not doing anything of the sort.

[Apyadg]

If we're relying on Dunne, who's been out for a better part of a year, and frankly, looked ridiculously unfit and off the pace (even for him) for a year or so before that, we're truly screwed.