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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848018 times)

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2400 on: January 23, 2013, 09:15:28 AM »
Geez i wonder sometimes, the problems left by MON are still crippling the club we have had three managers in quick succession that have all hit a brick wall,changing the manager yet again will solve nothing or do you expect Randy to be handing him a warchest of 30 million or so because that is what it will take. Wages are the big issue not the transfer price and what brilliant player is willing to come to us for 40.000 a week when he can get 60.000 somewhere else? Lambert bought well in the summer with the money availeable, you can't expect every player to be a hit especially in the market we are in. We have players that are not good enough and without money no manager can change that.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2401 on: January 23, 2013, 09:57:58 AM »
Absolutely spot on. What's happening at the moment has been building for 4 years. If you constantly sell your best players to your (then) opposition and replace them with substandard or vastly overpriced players and poor managers your only going in one direction. It's all come to head this season and that's not PL's fault it's Faulkner and Learner's. The players he bought are good but are totally lacking in confidence. Lambert is a good coach but needs the opportunity to strengthen the squad

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2402 on: January 23, 2013, 10:00:07 AM »
Geez i wonder sometimes, the problems left by MON are still crippling the club we have had three managers in quick succession that have all hit a brick wall,changing the manager yet again will solve nothing or do you expect Randy to be handing him a warchest of 30 million or so because that is what it will take. Wages are the big issue not the transfer price and what brilliant player is willing to come to us for 40.000 a week when he can get 60.000 somewhere else? Lambert bought well in the summer with the money availeable, you can't expect every player to be a hit especially in the market we are in. We have players that are not good enough and without money no manager can change that.

I just don't understand the blame that MON gets(regarding money). EVERY penny was authorised from above. 

He was caught short with full backs and some odd tactics during his time but overall he built a very good, competitive side.

He left us in the crap because of Randy's change of direction - surely it is very clear why he left now - our squad has been dismantled.

Randy should be the one getting ALL the abuse. He came here with his side kick promising the earth and has now decided it isn't worth it.

Fair play rules my arse. A rich kid that is bored with his toys.

Offline ez

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2403 on: January 23, 2013, 10:03:50 AM »
I get the feeling the club see us going out to Bradford as no big deal. Just a feeling.

Offline NiiLamptey

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2404 on: January 23, 2013, 10:04:09 AM »
I keep refreshing newsnow to see if he has been sacked...

doesnt look like we are signing anyone or going to sack him... doomed!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2405 on: January 23, 2013, 10:05:34 AM »
Geez i wonder sometimes, the problems left by MON are still crippling the club we have had three managers in quick succession that have all hit a brick wall,changing the manager yet again will solve nothing or do you expect Randy to be handing him a warchest of 30 million or so because that is what it will take. Wages are the big issue not the transfer price and what brilliant player is willing to come to us for 40.000 a week when he can get 60.000 somewhere else? Lambert bought well in the summer with the money availeable, you can't expect every player to be a hit especially in the market we are in. We have players that are not good enough and without money no manager can change that.

I just don't understand the blame that MON gets(regarding money). EVERY penny was authorised from above. 

He was caught short with full backs and some odd tactics during his time but overall he built a very good, competitive side.

He left us in the crap because of Randy's change of direction - surely it is very clear why he left now - our squad has been dismantled.

Randy should be the one getting ALL the abuse. He came here with his side kick promising the earth and has now decided it isn't worth it.

Fair play rules my arse. A rich kid that is bored with his toys.

Every peny wasn't spent in a wise way. We could see that. Even at the time. Hindsight doesn't need to tell you the cash spent on Heskey, Harewood etc was bad.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2406 on: January 23, 2013, 10:08:37 AM »
Geez i wonder sometimes, the problems left by MON are still crippling the club we have had three managers in quick succession that have all hit a brick wall,changing the manager yet again will solve nothing or do you expect Randy to be handing him a warchest of 30 million or so because that is what it will take. Wages are the big issue not the transfer price and what brilliant player is willing to come to us for 40.000 a week when he can get 60.000 somewhere else? Lambert bought well in the summer with the money availeable, you can't expect every player to be a hit especially in the market we are in. We have players that are not good enough and without money no manager can change that.

I just don't understand the blame that MON gets(regarding money). EVERY penny was authorised from above. 

He was caught short with full backs and some odd tactics during his time but overall he built a very good, competitive side.

He left us in the crap because of Randy's change of direction - surely it is very clear why he left now - our squad has been dismantled.

Randy should be the one getting ALL the abuse. He came here with his side kick promising the earth and has now decided it isn't worth it.

Fair play rules my arse. A rich kid that is bored with his toys.


Bang on Malandro.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2407 on: January 23, 2013, 10:13:26 AM »
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that's not PL's fault it's Faulkner and Learner's. The players he bought are good but are totally lacking in confidence. Lambert is a good coach but needs the opportunity to strengthen the squad

Lerner's clearly an absolute clueless twat but Lambert really doesnt help himself. He's in a position where he's unlikely to get the sack soon (judging by the way Lerner dragged his heels over sacking McShit last yeat) so why doesnt he speak up a bit more? complain publicly that he's not getting the funds required to guarantee safety. He might be able to get a few more fans onside by at least pretending that he wants more/better players. Listen to managers like Rednapp who constantly talk in the press about needing to strengthen to compete, trying to turn public opinion against his chairman and force him to get the cheque book out. Lambert does none of this. He should grow a pair of bollocks and stop coming accross as some sort of Yes Man for Lerner.

I'm sick of both of them but it looks like we're stuck with them

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2408 on: January 23, 2013, 10:19:55 AM »
If we look at the first XI that played quite regularly in MON's season:
Friedel
Young/Cuellar - Dunne - Collins - Warnock
Downing - Milner - Petrov - Young
Carew Gabby

Only Gabby and Dunne remain. Of course Warnock is there but deemed surplus to requirements.

Of the players that have been sold/released/ lost for other reasons, how many have been replaced with players approaching anything close to their calibre?

Bent is the obvious one (although it does beg the question why MON wasn't given that money in the summer he left, might have saved us a whole lot of trouble).
Vlaar on paper as a Dutch international should be up to it, but...
I had hopes N'Zogbia would push on to be our next Ashley Young, hasn't happened. Friedel for Given, would have been ok if it wasn't for Given's injury problems and loss of form since.

Essentially, we (Randy) have let the guts of a team go and aside from a one off splurge on Bent (which after the Milner, Young and Downing money, still left him with a nice little profit) he has instructed managers to make do with youngsters playing in the reserves.

That's not even getting into all the squad players that are gone, who may not have been world beaters, but could do a job when needed.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2409 on: January 23, 2013, 10:22:56 AM »
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that's not PL's fault it's Faulkner and Learner's. The players he bought are good but are totally lacking in confidence. Lambert is a good coach but needs the opportunity to strengthen the squad

Lerner's clearly an absolute clueless twat but Lambert really doesnt help himself. He's in a position where he's unlikely to get the sack soon (judging by the way Lerner dragged his heels over sacking McShit last yeat) so why doesnt he speak up a bit more? complain publicly that he's not getting the funds required to guarantee safety. He might be able to get a few more fans onside by at least pretending that he wants more/better players. Listen to managers like Rednapp who constantly talk in the press about needing to strengthen to compete, trying to turn public opinion against his chairman and force him to get the cheque book out. Lambert does none of this. He should grow a pair of bollocks and stop coming accross as some sort of Yes Man for Lerner.

I'm sick of both of them but it looks like we're stuck with them

Do you really want Lambert to turn into a mouthpiece like Redknapp?? I'd rather get relegated and maintain some dignity.

The reason he is not saying anything to the press is because he knew the situation when he came in. I think he underestimated the job at hand and I feel sorry for him.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2410 on: January 23, 2013, 10:27:50 AM »
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I'd rather get relegated and maintain some dignity.

You think we can maintain a scrap of dignity if we get relegated?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2411 on: January 23, 2013, 10:29:42 AM »
This is one of those EU polls, where we have to keep voting until we get the answer the question setter wants,  right ?

While concerned about Lambert's subs and tactics in the second half of the last 2 games, I still don't see who better would take the job *under the current constraints* - it's been that way since MON left...

Secondly, if we were going to do it, we should have done it at the beginning of the transfer window, not at the end. Unless we have already tapped up a replacement and the players he wants, it's too late.

Finally, to those who point out Lambert spent £25m in the summer - that would have been an acceptable budget if we'd needed two or three players. Except we needed six or seven. And God knows what wage restrictions are also in place, cutting down the options.

We are doomed this season now whatever we do. Let's avoid another hefty compensation sum and let Lambert do what we already know he can - build a team to get into *and compete in* the Premier League.

I agree.

I understand the bloodlust some people have, and strictly speaking, he deserves the sack, but the alternatives will be no better.

Lerner has GOT to back his man, and very quickly.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2412 on: January 23, 2013, 10:30:42 AM »
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I'd rather get relegated and maintain some dignity.

You think we can maintain a scrap of dignity if we get relegated?

Compared with having 'Arry Redknapp as an ambassador for the club moaning to the press about having no money??? Yes.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2413 on: January 23, 2013, 10:31:30 AM »
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I'd rather get relegated and maintain some dignity.

You think we can maintain a scrap of dignity if we get relegated?

Well I don't want sound like a Nose or a Doghead but I am getting pretty sick to the back teeth of us losing every week.

Whatever division we're in the club needs to start consistently winning some fucking games.

The last 3 years just feels like death by a thousand cuts.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority no, 22nd Jan
« Reply #2414 on: January 23, 2013, 10:31:36 AM »
How can anyone still say he's a good coach ?

Tactically woeful .

 


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