Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[john e]

the only appointment they got horribly wrong was TSM, admittedly it was as wrong as you could get but they at least rectified the mistake pretty quickly

there were good reasons for Houlier he he had a proven record, whether you liked him or not it was  not madness to give him the job,
 so he had a heart complaint, there are plenty of people in stressfull jobs who have suffered the same, including Harry, they dont all end up on the scrap heap, obviously his problem reacured and that was it, but in know way was it a major mistake to appoint him in the first place,
i think he could have done well for Villa

then we have Lambert, well he topped the poll on here, so he couldnt have been that bad a choice, it certainly didnt seem like board room stupidity to bring him in at the time, and i still think that even though we have been through the worst set of results in history the majority want to give him more time, as i do

so the board have made mistakes in appointing managers, but only the one big one, we shouldnt exagerate that

[Drummond]

After the TSM dibacle nothing would suprise me with Randy and PF

Sadly, I agree.

Thinking back to that appointment, I still can't believe they were that stupid.

I dread to think who they'd appoint next.

To be fair to them, they couldn't have foreseen that on being given £25m to spend on a squad that TSM kept up, that Lambert would perform quite so poorly.

If it were as simple as that, I'd agree.

There were a number of players they also needed to get rid of though, so it wasn't a pure £25m was it? In addition to that, you need to factor in that the older players were on higher salaries and though there was £25m to spend, it was on the basis that anyone brought in wouldn't cost as much in wages.

So, spend all this money, get rid of the high earners, but also, increase the size of the squad, improve the quality, and cost us less on an ongoing basis. Plus keep the fans happy and off my back, you know I like a quiet life.

There aren't any other managers out there that work under that sort of brief, other than perhaps David Moyes; who, let's face it, is widely regarded as being one of the very best.

[TheTimVilla]

3-5-1 etc etc

That's why we keep losing then!

I'm thinking we should pack the defence, the midfield and increase our artillery up front. How about a 5-5-4 with a couple of spider 'keepers that can handle the ball anywhere?

[PeterWithe]

It would take more than Di Matteo to keep this lot up, if we don't get new players in we are fucked, whoever the manager is.

[PaulWinch again]

Lambert needs to view this Adkins thing as a wake up call. We must improve and get the players we need quickly.

[OzVilla]

the only appointment they got horribly wrong was TSM, admittedly it was as wrong as you could get but they at least rectified the mistake pretty quickly

there were good reasons for Houlier he he had a proven record, whether you liked him or not it was  not madness to give him the job,
 so he had a heart complaint, there are plenty of people in stressfull jobs who have suffered the same, including Harry, they dont all end up on the scrap heap, obviously his problem reacured and that was it, but in know way was it a major mistake to appoint him in the first place,
i think he could have done well for Villa

then we have Lambert, well he topped the poll on here, so he couldnt have been that bad a choice, it certainly didnt seem like board room stupidity to bring him in at the time, and i still think that even though we have been through the worst set of results in history the majority want to give him more time, as i do

so the board have made mistakes in appointing managers, but only the one big one, we shouldnt exagerate that

Disagree, thought GH was a poor appointment too, years out of the game behind a desk at that bastion of footballing professionalism the FFA (They'd all just been on strike before a World Cup) and had serious health issues.

And let's not get too misty eyed about GH, he showed O'Learyesque ignorance about the Clubs history, surrendered matches on a number of occasions and didn't sort out of defensive issues.  We were shite under GH and then sold our better players to become shitter still.

With the best will in the world, he should never have been offered the job.

[Risso]

Totally agree OzVilla.

[MarkM]

Totally agree OzVilla.

And me

[sonlyme]

Pretty speech sonlyme, but where is Aston Villa's next win coming from?

West Bromwich will do for me.

[aj2k77]

Does Lambert look more jaded at the moment, he doesn't look like he's got any spark in the interviews or has he always came across this dreary.

[VillaAlways]

Does Lambert look more jaded at the moment, he doesn't look like he's got any spark in the interviews or has he always came across this dreary.

I thought so.He also trots out the same lines every single week but with less conviction each time

[old man villa fan]

Does Lambert look more jaded at the moment, he doesn't look like he's got any spark in the interviews or has he always came across this dreary.

I thought so.He also trots out the same lines every single week but with less conviction each time

There are only so many ways of reflecting on similar results.  The only other thing he can do is to criticise individuals and nobody wants that.

[old man villa fan]

After the TSM dibacle nothing would suprise me with Randy and PF

Sadly, I agree.

Thinking back to that appointment, I still can't believe they were that stupid.

I dread to think who they'd appoint next.

To be fair to them, they couldn't have foreseen that on being given £25m to spend on a squad that TSM kept up, that Lambert would perform quite so poorly.

I may be wrong but were you not saying it was £20m last week (it was actually £19.5m net).  I assume you made a mistake and have not deliberately used a higher amount to try and magnify the situation.

Also, it was not as if he had the money to add to the squad but to replace:

(i) 2 fullbacks that most were saying needed replacing
(ii) a striker that couldn't score goals and we paid a fortune every week for the privilage
(iii) a central defender that we wanted off the books as his wage did not match what we were getting from him
(iv) a central defender he decided to sell to raise money

Were there any of the above that you would not have tried to replace last summer

Did you ever come up with a realistic alternative to PL?

[MarkM]

Opta statistics: under McLeish, Villa, on average, scored more goals, conceded fewer goals, picked up more points, registered more shots, made more crosses and won more tackles. McLeish's season, lest it be forgotten, went down as one of the bleakest on record at Villa

A quote from a Guardian article.

Puts PL's term into perspective

[CJ]

You beat me to that quote MarkM! That Grauniad article about us makes very interesting reading