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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848119 times)

Offline Kingthing

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1890 on: January 14, 2013, 08:07:47 PM »
I realised today I'm doing 3 games in less than a week, can't remember when that last happened. I reckon I'll have the Samaritans on speed dial by Tuesday.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1891 on: January 14, 2013, 08:17:29 PM »
Pat Murphy just made several points I agree with. There's a lack of nous in our team, and the players aren't actually that young in most cases it's whether they're good enough. Baker and Clark clearly need a break and we need experience into the centre of the team.

I tuned in at the very end of that section, but they seemed to be talking about the LMA. We're they discussing whether he should be sacked/backed by Lerner too?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1892 on: January 14, 2013, 08:19:19 PM »
No they said he wouldn't be sacked, but highlighted our problems. It's not an age issue it's a quality issue.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1893 on: January 15, 2013, 07:41:15 AM »
We need Alec Baldwin's character from Glengarry Glenn Ross to come in. "Put. The. Coffee. DOWN!"

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1894 on: January 15, 2013, 08:24:02 AM »
And we'll be lucky to end up with the steak knives.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1895 on: January 15, 2013, 08:30:21 AM »
When our players are referred to as young, what people should be saying is 'inexperienced at the top level'. If we take that as meaning in England then it covers most of the team.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1896 on: January 15, 2013, 08:44:27 AM »
I'm very worried that PL is a very stubborn man who seems to have an aversion to signing players above league one.Maybe he can't deal with the egos (see Bent) and you could argue that McLeish got much more out of Ireland than he has. Ultimately his stubborness will get us relegated as players from othe leagues are not going to hit the road running.it's also far too late these players should have been identified and in by the beginning of Jan and certainly by the Southampton game to give us any chance. I just can't see our way out of it,the quality we need is not there and I'm not confident it will be acquired . It's so depressing and could have been so avoidable. Out of all the new managers this season I was confident we had got the best one. Unfortunately as it turns out we've got the worst ever imaginable who is achieving a feat that even McLeish couldn't manage

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1897 on: January 15, 2013, 09:16:20 AM »
It looks deliberate to me. How can you think anything else when, following the run of results we have had, the club does not do anything to address it?

The manager sits and watches as if he has been assured that his position is safe regardless of relegation.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1898 on: January 15, 2013, 05:31:58 PM »
Pat Murphy just made several points I agree with. There's a lack of nous in our team, and the players aren't actually that young in most cases it's whether they're good enough. Baker and Clark clearly need a break and we need experience into the centre of the team.

exactly , Soton had a 17 year old which none of our players could lace his boots.   they are not young , there is just to many of them.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1899 on: January 15, 2013, 05:35:25 PM »
Agreed JP, I prefer to call them inexperienced rather than young (although clearly the two go together, and they're not the oldest). They've been mismanaged since the MON days, and many of them could have been not only better, but better equipped mentally to handle situations like this had they been integrated into the first team more intelligently. Oh well.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1900 on: January 15, 2013, 05:42:42 PM »
We need Alec Baldwin's character from Glengarry Glenn Ross to come in. "Put. The. Coffee. DOWN!"


He would have my full support

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1901 on: January 15, 2013, 06:22:39 PM »
That Luke Shaw was a handly player. He won't be there much longer. He's way better than any of our 'youth'

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1902 on: January 15, 2013, 06:47:40 PM »
I agree with you one hundred percent VillaAlways.   Paul Lambert's stubbornness is right at the root of our problems.

I really do believe that Randy Lerner is willing to put up the funds to bring in players to save our premiership status but that willingness has to be translated into signatures on paper and bodies in Villa shirts.

All my Villa instincts tell me that Paul Lambert will not make sufficient effort or urgency to turn the owners willingness into reality of a better, less defeat prone squad because he, Lambert sees changes from his cheap, young team ethos as a personal defeat.

It will be the easiest thing for Lambert to do to an owner on the other side of the Atlantic to say he went after this player and this player and that player and that other player but it did not work out for this reason and that reason.   Lambert will defy instructions to get reinforcements in and take the hit when we go down.   He knows they will be very very reluctant to sack him whatever happens because they have such a history of managerial appointment foul ups.

In a nutshell, Lambert will play brinkmanship and he personally will win.   The club of course and the owner will lose massively.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1903 on: January 15, 2013, 11:50:15 PM »
It will be the easiest thing for Lambert to do to an owner on the other side of the Atlantic to say he went after this player and this player and that player and that other player but it did not work out for this reason and that reason.   Lambert will defy instructions to get reinforcements in and take the hit when we go down.   He knows they will be very very reluctant to sack him whatever happens because they have such a history of managerial appointment foul ups.

It shouldn't work like that. Lambert should have a list of players for each position he wants to strengthen, listed in order of priority. It is then up to the club to work down that list until they start getting somewhere with it.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1904 on: January 16, 2013, 12:51:24 AM »
I agree with you one hundred percent VillaAlways.   Paul Lambert's stubbornness is right at the root of our problems.

I really do believe that Randy Lerner is willing to put up the funds to bring in players to save our premiership status but that willingness has to be translated into signatures on paper and bodies in Villa shirts.

All my Villa instincts tell me that Paul Lambert will not make sufficient effort or urgency to turn the owners willingness into reality of a better, less defeat prone squad because he, Lambert sees changes from his cheap, young team ethos as a personal defeat.

It will be the easiest thing for Lambert to do to an owner on the other side of the Atlantic to say he went after this player and this player and that player and that other player but it did not work out for this reason and that reason.   Lambert will defy instructions to get reinforcements in and take the hit when we go down.   He knows they will be very very reluctant to sack him whatever happens because they have such a history of managerial appointment foul ups.

In a nutshell, Lambert will play brinkmanship and he personally will win.   The club of course and the owner will lose massively.


while i agree he's stubborn and has probably brought into the whole "buy young/cheap players" mantra when he took the job, I find it hard to believe Lambert's that cynical. I'm also not sure what he would "win". Breaking all sorts of negative club records and genuinely buggering up on a massive scale will hardly do anything for his reputation unless we're paying him so much he doesn't have to work again after getting the bullet.

 


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