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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848152 times)

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1710 on: January 13, 2013, 10:29:03 AM »
As i said a few days ago, this season reminds me a lot of GH's season. GH had a long term plan and you could see what he was trying to do but in the short term he made a pigs ear of it, even if he did have an outrageous injury list to contend with.

Same with Lambert. You can see what his plan is long term but again he's making such hard work of it. Whether we're going down or not i don't know but sooner or later we're going to have to stick with a manager and give him two or three seasons. Whether that'll be Lambert remains to be seen.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1711 on: January 13, 2013, 10:32:07 AM »
As i said a few days ago, this season reminds me a lot of GH's season. GH had a long term plan and you could see what he was trying to do but in the short term he made a pigs ear of it, even if he did have an outrageous injury list to contend with.

Same with Lambert. You can see what his plan is long term but again he's making such hard work of it. Whether we're going down or not i don't know but sooner or later we're going to have to stick with a manager and give him two or three seasons. Whether that'll be Lambert remains to be seen.

You might be able to see his plan, but I can't.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1712 on: January 13, 2013, 10:36:19 AM »
His plan appears to be put out an attacking team on paper that in reality offers nothing going forward and is exposed at the back, especially the fullbacks who are being left hung out to try at the moment.


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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1713 on: January 13, 2013, 10:37:58 AM »
No system will work with the midfield we have.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1714 on: January 13, 2013, 10:38:10 AM »
As i said a few days ago, this season reminds me a lot of GH's season. GH had a long term plan and you could see what he was trying to do but in the short term he made a pigs ear of it, even if he did have an outrageous injury list to contend with.

Same with Lambert. You can see what his plan is long term but again he's making such hard work of it. Whether we're going down or not i don't know but sooner or later we're going to have to stick with a manager and give him two or three seasons. Whether that'll be Lambert remains to be seen.

You might be able to see his plan, but I can't.


I presume his plan is bringing in promising youngsters which in a few years time will form the base of a really good side. The likes of Lowton, Westwood and Benteke have a lot of promise but they're not quite ready yet. We all know he should have brought experience to play alongside them and that's where he's messed up.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1715 on: January 13, 2013, 10:41:32 AM »
As i said a few days ago, this season reminds me a lot of GH's season. GH had a long term plan and you could see what he was trying to do but in the short term he made a pigs ear of it, even if he did have an outrageous injury list to contend with.

Same with Lambert. You can see what his plan is long term but again he's making such hard work of it. Whether we're going down or not i don't know but sooner or later we're going to have to stick with a manager and give him two or three seasons. Whether that'll be Lambert remains to be seen.

Well, I agree that sticking with a manager for a period of time would be great, no doubt at all, but for the life of me I can't see what Lambert's long-term plan is. Or at least, if it's buying 'young, hungry' players from the lower leagues, then it isn't working by some distance.

I can't see a real reason for keeping him beyond the idea of some sort of continuity, but continuation if being shit is far from ideal.

As others have said, if there were signs that he was improving things, that players were getting better, that the tactics were capable of getting results, then great. But I don't think there is, so we might as well try something different. It almost certainly couldn't get worse, at worst it would just be as bad.

People might scoff at, say, Allardyce, but I honestly think that if he were in charge of our team right now, we'd be doing better than we are (and for what it's worth, I really don't care about football 'being played the right way', whatever that means). Drilling the defence, parking the bus, whatever, doesn't have to mean McLeish style football - it means concentrating on the basics, and finding a way to win. Going 'toe-to-toe' with Chelsea, Spurs etc was madness, doubly so given the quality of players we have right now. And bizarrely, when we probably could have outplayed someone (Bradford), the tactic seemed to be 'lump it'.

It's a shame, and I'd be as disappointed as anyone about further upheaval, but I just think we have to halt the current slide - Hell, even just changing the press and the mood about the club at the moment could help.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1716 on: January 13, 2013, 10:47:09 AM »
I really don't understand the logic of keeping a manager just because it hasn't worked with other managers previously . We've only actually sacked one manager Mon walked and GH got ill. Keeping a manager that is proving to be utterly imcompetent just because we've been unlucky with previous ones seems crazy to me
« Last Edit: January 13, 2013, 10:51:29 AM by VillaAlways »

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1717 on: January 13, 2013, 10:47:48 AM »
Lamberts dour tone doesn't make it any better either. I know it's only superficial but when we're on a stinking run and breaking all the wrong kinds of records his boring hum drum monotenous voice just seems to sum up everything about the club at the moment.

I can't imagine him firing the players up with a team talk.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1718 on: January 13, 2013, 10:48:15 AM »
In. He was the right manager when we appointed him, he still is the right manager.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1719 on: January 13, 2013, 10:49:55 AM »
Unless Its Pep coming in , not point getting rid but christ , we have been shite

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1720 on: January 13, 2013, 10:51:05 AM »
In (just). It's the players, we urgently need some better and experienced ones in the team.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1721 on: January 13, 2013, 10:51:20 AM »
I think if you play the system we did yesterday, the three behind the front man have to help the midfield. Our three didn't help at all, and Holman was horrendous.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1722 on: January 13, 2013, 10:52:10 AM »
In. He was the right manager when we appointed him, he still is the right manager.
How is he?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1723 on: January 13, 2013, 10:57:17 AM »
In. He was the right manager when we appointed him, he still is the right manager.
How is he?

Well 3,000 sang his name at Carrow Road last May so if Lerner has got it wrong, then so did 3,000 others.

I still think there's a a decent manager there, he proved it at Norwich but i can't argue with the fact that we look bloody woeful at the moment.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1724 on: January 13, 2013, 11:10:57 AM »
As i said a few days ago, this season reminds me a lot of GH's season
It reminds me of Clough's final season when Forest went down, by his own admittance he hadn't got a clue how to get out of it and looked like a rabbit caught in headlights at every game.

Clough's judgement had gone so much to shit that he decided to Let Teddy Sheringham go, as he believed 'his control on the ball wasn't very good.' - Shades of Lambert with Bent?

Clough was on the pop by this time, not sure about Lambert, but he certainly knows how to slur his words.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2013, 11:16:42 AM by Rip Van doin' the Lambert walk »

 


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