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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848153 times)

Offline Fin Feds Dad

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1455 on: January 12, 2013, 06:37:33 PM »
I said to my Dad on the way out - he's been here 6 months , they are now his players - and we have gone backwards - massively.

Its complete rubbish - worse than TSM.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 06:39:19 PM by Fin Feds Dad »

Offline Nev

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1456 on: January 12, 2013, 06:38:53 PM »
The man looks utterly lost, downcast and clueless.

Given what's happened over the last month, procrastination in the transfer market is not exactly a good idea.

It' Lamberts team, tactics and plan and it's not working.

Offline Lambert and Payne

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1457 on: January 12, 2013, 06:39:22 PM »
Gary McAllister please. He did well with us in a similar situation before. maybe he can do it again.
PLEASE tell me that I'm being thick and missing out on some sarcasm

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1458 on: January 12, 2013, 06:40:08 PM »

 If you kept the current conditions to manage AVFC, then who would come in and manage to save us from relegation.

 1.There seems a reluctance to spend money on new players, emanating i presume from the top, that suggests that if any players do come in then their immediate impact will be negligible.

 2.There is an over-reliance on youth, but the senior players at the club, and high earners, do not , through either unprofessionalism, or old age, offer much improvement.

 3.Lambert's signings actually look our best players.The old guard look certainly over paid, and limited ability.

 4.If we have no money, then what manager would come who would be an improvement on PL.

 5.The cost cutting exercise has been too quick and too severe.We need players now, and if that means paying too much in either fees or wages, then so be it.The cost of going down would be far greater.

 Today they tried, but the fact is we are not good enough atm, and we desperately need at least 2/3 new players.If PL said we don't then i would agree with replacing , but he recognises that we need recruitment, and so deserves our support.

If you were having thoughts about changing your manager , would you give him money ?
We know randy has money - just because he won't give it to lambert doesn't mean he wont give it to a new manager.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1459 on: January 12, 2013, 06:40:48 PM »
Way i see it a load of the kids are probably ruined now. Everyone knows you have to take them out the firing line quite regularly and not just when they're playing badly. Any sort of gradual growth and development  of them seems to have been thrown out the window on the back of cost cutting and some pie in the sky Ajax of the midlands fantasy. Thats not Lambert's fault entirely but he hasn't helped with his purchasing of players.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1460 on: January 12, 2013, 06:41:17 PM »
Gary McAllister please. He did well with us in a similar situation before. maybe he can do it again.
PLEASE tell me that I'm being thick and what i am missing out on
Class A drugs I guess

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1461 on: January 12, 2013, 06:43:33 PM »

 If you kept the current conditions to manage AVFC, then who would come in and manage to save us from relegation.

 1.There seems a reluctance to spend money on new players, emanating i presume from the top, that suggests that if any players do come in then their immediate impact will be negligible.

 2.There is an over-reliance on youth, but the senior players at the club, and high earners, do not , through either unprofessionalism, or old age, offer much improvement.

 3.Lambert's signings actually look our best players.The old guard look certainly over paid, and limited ability.

 4.If we have no money, then what manager would come who would be an improvement on PL.

 5.The cost cutting exercise has been too quick and too severe.We need players now, and if that means paying too much in either fees or wages, then so be it.The cost of going down would be far greater.

 Today they tried, but the fact is we are not good enough atm, and we desperately need at least 2/3 new players.If PL said we don't then i would agree with replacing , but he recognises that we need recruitment, and so deserves our support.

If you were having thoughts about changing your manager , would you give him money ?
We know randy has money - just because he won't give it to lambert doesn't mean he wont give it to a new manager.
Money needs spending now. Before the Albion game. The whole thing is going tits up. People are calling for players to be recalled that they previously wanted out of the club. It is panic stations down there. Everybody you speak to, including the staff, think we are going down.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1462 on: January 12, 2013, 06:43:47 PM »
Left Foot , thats the problem the players he signed were looking better, but then come along Christmas 2012 and now they look like kids out of their depth, scared to pass as they were earlier in the season, Norwich in the cup a perfect example, so a team that was brought together to play a pass and press game, now seem to be asked to play hoof ball and when it does not work no one seems to understand why, well that is no one on the coaching staff that is, because it is happening week after week.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1463 on: January 12, 2013, 06:48:31 PM »
Gary McAllister please. He did well with us in a similar situation before. maybe he can do it again.
PLEASE tell me that I'm being thick and missing out on some sarcasm

No, why would I? His results were good. He knows the setup here and could hit the ground running. Offer him a deal if he keeps us up like last time he gets a perm deal.

Whats wrong with him and who the hell else are we going to get?

Offline Oscar Arce

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1464 on: January 12, 2013, 06:50:45 PM »

 If you kept the current conditions to manage AVFC, then who would come in and manage to save us from relegation.

 1.There seems a reluctance to spend money on new players, emanating i presume from the top, that suggests that if any players do come in then their immediate impact will be negligible.

 2.There is an over-reliance on youth, but the senior players at the club, and high earners, do not , through either unprofessionalism, or old age, offer much improvement.

 3.Lambert's signings actually look our best players.The old guard look certainly over paid, and limited ability.

 4.If we have no money, then what manager would come who would be an improvement on PL.

 5.The cost cutting exercise has been too quick and too severe.We need players now, and if that means paying too much in either fees or wages, then so be it.The cost of going down would be far greater.

 Today they tried, but the fact is we are not good enough atm, and we desperately need at least 2/3 new players.If PL said we don't then i would agree with replacing , but he recognises that we need recruitment, and so deserves our support.

If you were having thoughts about changing your manager , would you give him money ?
We know randy has money - just because he won't give it to lambert doesn't mean he wont give it to a new manager.
Money needs spending now. Before the Albion game. The whole thing is going tits up. People are calling for players to be recalled that they previously wanted out of the club. It is panic stations down there. Everybody you speak to, including the staff, think we are going down.

Would you trust Lambert to buy what we need though ?
My guess is we would get a few more Bennetts and Lowton's.
This man is very stubborn and won't change and a change is what's needd, something to get us going again and gain some impetus, as we are the worst team in the division now.

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1465 on: January 12, 2013, 07:04:50 PM »

 Have to say though Oscar, overall PLs players are our better players, if a bit vulnerable/fragile because of their age.Benteke, Westwood, look very good players to me, Lowton and Bennett will get better, thought Lowton played well 2nd half today.The problems are N'zog, Gabby, Ireland etc.

 I'm afraid N'Zog tries hard, as he did today, but does'nt have is, Gabby is a waste of time, as is Ireland.Bowery came on today and caused more problems than Gabby and N'zog.PL is not the problem, the problem is RL has cut the spending too quick, and by too much.We need to spend some money now, and then reduce the wages by letting Dunne/Given/Ireland/Bent/Gabby etc go.PL has proven that he can see a player, he needs to be able to take a step up in his purchases.

Offline Lambert and Payne

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1466 on: January 12, 2013, 07:07:52 PM »
No sane manager with ambition will come to us. Di Matteo is pie in the sky and IMO not good enough anyway

Who (be realistic) will be joining us then?

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1467 on: January 12, 2013, 07:08:08 PM »
I don't think he's bought badly so much as his tactics, formation, and team selections have been dubious to say the least - his transfers have in the main been ok , but the time has come now to go.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1468 on: January 12, 2013, 07:09:39 PM »
No sane manager with ambition will come to us. Di Matteo is pie in the sky and IMO not good enough anyway

Who (be realistic) will be joining us then?

Pie in the sky why?  I personally think it will be di matteo and quickly.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1469 on: January 12, 2013, 07:10:09 PM »
Any other club in any other of the division including the conference would have sacked their manager following these sequence of results it's not just the losses but the nature of them.Losing to Bradford was a sackable offence on it's own.We are an ambitionless that is only going in one direction

 


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