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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848018 times)

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1440 on: January 12, 2013, 06:25:59 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that
It's his fault he bought in a load of kids when it was clear some experience was needed, how about some loan players if wages were an issue ?

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1441 on: January 12, 2013, 06:27:24 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that
It's his fault he bought in a load of kids when it was clear some experience was needed even on loan

I'm still not convinced he had the latitude on fees and wages to bring them in.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1442 on: January 12, 2013, 06:27:40 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that

Managers with lesser budgets and players are doing better than him. We all know resources are thread bare, but the lack of organisation is a coaching failure, the abysmal goal difference position demonstrates tactical failure, and the body language of players and staff indicates motivational failure. 

The combination of an abysmal absent owner and incompetent, out of depth manager is a perfect storm I'm afraid.  Relegation seems inevitable.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1443 on: January 12, 2013, 06:27:51 PM »
We need to get a reaction and change something otherwise we are heading for the Championship, today was woeful and people are now realising that we are going to go down after I've been saying it all season.
It really doesn't mater short-term who we bring in, a reaction somehow and a change is what we need, Lambert is not going to change so I vote out.
If we keep him it is preparing for a derby with Small Heath next season.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1444 on: January 12, 2013, 06:28:56 PM »
We need to get a reaction and change something otherwise we are heading for the Championship, today was woeful and people are now realising that we are going to go down after I've been saying it all season.
It really doesn't mater short-term who we bring in, a reaction somehow and a change is what we need, Lambert is not going to change so I vote out.
If we keep him it is preparing for a derby with Small Heath next season.

Sadly I agree, it has to be Paul with regret-you're fired!

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1445 on: January 12, 2013, 06:29:24 PM »
Gary McAllister please. He did well with us in a similar situation before. maybe he can do it again.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1446 on: January 12, 2013, 06:31:29 PM »
All the  old names will get thrown in - sourness, strachan , southgate,Walter smith etc .

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1447 on: January 12, 2013, 06:31:47 PM »
Slightly unfair to reset the poll just after we've lost to a poor team at home.  Had it been reset after the Liverpool game there'd have been a very different response.

Yes, it's just the loss to Southampton at home that has led to the change in views.  Absolutely.  *Head banging emoticon*

I direct you to the 'Things I've read on here' thread to see the wildly-swinging views depending on the latest result.  If the H&V forum was a human being it would've been daignosed with bi-polar disorder a long time ago.

If the point of a poll is to be representative I don't think resetting it when fans are probably at their lowest ebb is going to get that result.

It's the middle of January, and we're in the bottom three having conceded a ton of goals and scored hardly any, we've got the worst goal difference in the league, the worst defence and have just been thrashed by a 4th division side.  It isn't wildly swinging anything, it's the realisation that Lambert is the worst manager we've had since God was a boy and that he couldn't be doing a worse job if he tried.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1448 on: January 12, 2013, 06:33:09 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that
It's his fault he bought in a load of kids when it was clear some experience was needed even on loan

I'm still not convinced he had the latitude on fees and wages to bring them in.

We were happy to buy Dempsey and pay him well. Could he not have directed that to alternative, proven players?

Working with young kids and making them better is his modus operandi in the main.

Offline Steve kirk

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1449 on: January 12, 2013, 06:33:44 PM »
I have tried to stay with Lambert but feel it is in the clubs best interest if he was to stand down, I don't think we can recover under his leadership , we are sinking like a stone and will more than likely finish bottom as in 1987 if we don't make a change.
I do believe a new manager could turn the ship around by organizing us better defensively and using Bent fully on his return to fitness, with a couple of senior loan players to give the young players a helping hand I  am convinced we would stay in the premier league, stay as we are and were sunk.

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1450 on: January 12, 2013, 06:34:14 PM »
Slightly unfair to reset the poll just after we've lost to a poor team at home.  Had it been reset after the Liverpool game there'd have been a very different response.

Yes, it's just the loss to Southampton at home that has led to the change in views.  Absolutely.  *Head banging emoticon*

I direct you to the 'Things I've read on here' thread to see the wildly-swinging views depending on the latest result.  If the H&V forum was a human being it would've been daignosed with bi-polar disorder a long time ago.

If the point of a poll is to be representative I don't think resetting it when fans are probably at their lowest ebb is going to get that result.

It's the middle of January, and we're in the bottom three having conceded a ton of goals and scored hardly any, we've got the worst goal difference in the league, the worst defence and have just been thrashed by a 4th division side.  It isn't wildly swinging anything, it's the realisation that Lambert is the worst manager we've had since God was a boy and that he couldn't be doing a worse job if he tried.

And if everyone agrees with you the poll could've been reset on a Thursday and the result would've been the same.  Resetting it after losing at home to Southampton is very likely to skew the result - that's all I'm saying.

Offline pbavfckuwait

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1451 on: January 12, 2013, 06:34:31 PM »
Right lets get a few things right, he had money to spend in the summer and spent it, he decided and obviously sold himself at interview to our two clueless toss pots, that get in younger hungrier and up for it youngsters and we will then be in a position to get rid of all the shite the other Scottish toss pot couldnt, that will bring the wage bill down, then when I am mid table at the end of the season I can rebuild slowly but surely, the problem being, the youngsters he bought are showing the same characteristics as their Manager, when it goes wrong lets look like a rabbit caught in the headlights, forget all we have been trained to do ( I hope) and panic.
This is his team, he has sent the bad boys away not to be thought of as footballers for Aston Villa again, the only thing keeping this bloke in some form of acceptance, is we do not trust the wankers running the club to appoint anyone better, that is the shameful place we find are selves in, bloody depressing.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1452 on: January 12, 2013, 06:35:52 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that
It's his fault he bought in a load of kids when it was clear some experience was needed even on loan

I'm still not convinced he had the latitude on fees and wages to bring them in.

We were happy to buy Dempsey and pay him well. Could he not have directed that to alternative, proven players?

Working with young kids and making them better is his modus operandi in the main.

Not sure with Dempsey. We had an offer accepted, but I don't think he even talked to us seriously, so perhaps our initial chat with his agent revealed that we were miles away from what Spurs ended up paying him.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1453 on: January 12, 2013, 06:36:04 PM »
How can it be his fault when he doesn't have the backing? He's been given transfer budget but no wage budget, its all well and good paying a fee if he cant pay a player.
Today the referee was fucking abysmal and Benteke should have had 3, I wouldn't blame Lambo for that
It's his fault he bought in a load of kids when it was clear some experience was needed even on loan

I'm still not convinced he had the latitude on fees and wages to bring them in.
I'm not asking for superstars.A couple of experienced players fromeven the championship would have done rather than fishing around in the third division

Offline barrysleftfoot

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Re: Lambert in or out? Poll reset at 86% no, 12th Jan
« Reply #1454 on: January 12, 2013, 06:37:26 PM »

 If you kept the current conditions to manage AVFC, then who would come in and manage to save us from relegation.

 1.There seems a reluctance to spend money on new players, emanating i presume from the top, that suggests that if any players do come in then their immediate impact will be negligible.

 2.There is an over-reliance on youth, but the senior players at the club, and high earners, do not , through either unprofessionalism, or old age, offer much improvement.

 3.Lambert's signings actually look our best players.The old guard look certainly over paid, and limited ability.

 4.If we have no money, then what manager would come who would be an improvement on PL.

 5.The cost cutting exercise has been too quick and too severe.We need players now, and if that means paying too much in either fees or wages, then so be it.The cost of going down would be far greater.

 Today they tried, but the fact is we are not good enough atm, and we desperately need at least 2/3 new players.If PL said we don't then i would agree with replacing , but he recognises that we need recruitment, and so deserves our support.

 


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