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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848144 times)

Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1275 on: January 09, 2013, 01:50:42 PM »
Oh and if he can't find a better option, Warnock should be left back.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1276 on: January 09, 2013, 01:56:20 PM »
He's not getting fired. I don't want him fired. I want him to do what we all thought he'd do, and I still believe he is capable of doing. Fix the fucking problem and rid us of this dark cloud that has lingered over the club for three years. I realise fully that football managers by nature can be stubborn bastards, but if he hasn't yet realised he has a serious issue, then he better and quick. He has 23 days to bring in players that not only will rescue the current season but provide a platform for seasons to come. Not an easy task I grant you, but that's what he is paid to do along with the scouts and Chief Executive. Just fucking do it so we can move past what feels like Groundhog Day around here.
This!

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1277 on: January 09, 2013, 02:00:07 PM »
He's not getting fired. I don't want him fired. I want him to do what we all thought he'd do, and I still believe he is capable of doing. Fix the fucking problem and rid us of this dark cloud that has lingered over the club for three years. I realise fully that football managers by nature can be stubborn bastards, but if he hasn't yet realised he has a serious issue, then he better and quick. He has 23 days to bring in players that not only will rescue the current season but provide a platform for seasons to come. Not an easy task I grant you, but that's what he is paid to do along with the scouts and Chief Executive. Just fucking do it so we can move past what feels like Groundhog Day around here.

Ain't it the truth.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1278 on: January 09, 2013, 02:19:04 PM »
This season has been awful, we have had a couple of good 90 minute dsiplays such as Swansea and Newcastle, possibly include Sunderland and also a few good periods during games [Man U, Liverpool] but on the whole it has been very dissapointing.

Many are looking at the Chelsea game as a stating point for our problems but we were not much better prior to that game. We lost heavily to Man City, Southampton and Everton. We only got 4 points from the first seven games and then only 13 in the next 10 during which time we played Reading, QPR, Sunderland, Fulham and Stoke.

I will admit that we do now play the ball around better its just a shame that is genrally goes side to side and backwards, PL failed to build the team in the summer with some experienced heads and instead elected to go for untried younger players this can he has to carry himself.

His tactical plans are a mystery! anyone could see that the formation he chose last night was going to leave is vunerable to there midfield, a stronger 4-4-2 would have stifled them more, this did become obvious during the game but as with the game at Chelsea Lambert just could not change it.

The Villa now resemble a guy in a boxing match who is flaling and windmilling his arms around really fast and at times is hitting his apponent, but most of the time he is getting his head punched.

Lets hope that we dont get a knock out blow and end up in the championship as I fear we will not come back very quickly

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1279 on: January 09, 2013, 02:20:41 PM »
I can't believe how things have changed so much in 24 days.
I know that during our victories against Norwich and Liverpool we rode our luck a little but after those results i firmly believe that we had turned the corner.

Look how we marvelled over Wiemann goal at Liverpool.

Compare that to the dross and humiliation of last nights performance because for me I felt empty. I’ve never felt that low even after the the chelsea debacle.

Where do we go from here I really don't know, but I do believe that the only way to survive will be to back the manager in this transfer window and hope that with better quality players he proves to be the manager we all hope that he was.

Failure to invest and there is no doubt whatsoever that we will be a Championship club next season

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1280 on: January 09, 2013, 02:21:45 PM »
Many are looking at the Chelsea game as a stating point for our problems but we were not much better prior to that game. We lost heavily to Man City, Southampton and Everton. We only got 4 points from the first seven games and then only 13 in the next 10 during which time we played Reading, QPR, Sunderland, Fulham and Stoke.

We were 6 games unbeaten prior to Chelsea.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1281 on: January 09, 2013, 02:24:18 PM »
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Where do we go from here


Is it down the the lake I fear?

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1282 on: January 09, 2013, 02:24:52 PM »
I can't believe how things have changed so much in 24 days.
I know that during our victories against Norwich and Liverpool we rode our luck a little but after those results i firmly believe that we had turned the corner.

Look how we marvelled over Wiemann goal at Liverpool.

Compare that to the dross and humiliation of last nights performance because for me I felt empty. I’ve never felt that low even after the the chelsea debacle.

Where do we go from here I really don't know, but I do believe that the only way to survive will be to back the manager in this transfer window and hope that with better quality players he proves to be the manager we all hope that he was.

Failure to invest and there is no doubt whatsoever that we will be a Championship club next season

this club got a massive boost in confidence when we signed Bent. We were transformed in the second half of that season with one signing. Granted we had better players and we now need more than just one player to come in, but don't underestimate what two or three solid signings can do for the psyche of the club and fans.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1283 on: January 09, 2013, 02:27:37 PM »
Many are looking at the Chelsea game as a stating point for our problems but we were not much better prior to that game. We lost heavily to Man City, Southampton and Everton. We only got 4 points from the first seven games and then only 13 in the next 10 during which time we played Reading, QPR, Sunderland, Fulham and Stoke.

We were 6 games unbeaten prior to Chelsea.

5 league games..

Liverpool won 3-1
Stoke drew 0-0
QPR drew 1-1
Reading won 1-0
Arsenal 0-0

So we were playing the 2 of the bottom 3 as well as Stoke and Liverpool out of those games the Arsenal match was a godd defensive display and the Liverpool game was good in spells during the game including some very good goals

The two games prior to the Arsenal draw were:

Man City lost 5-0
Man Utd lost 3-2

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1284 on: January 09, 2013, 02:29:44 PM »
Prior to Chelsea and up to the Liverpool match especially we were looking like progressing as a team (some good days, some average, some bad but something was taking shape) to the point I wasnt fussed if we did much business in January in order to give this team further chance to develop.

The change has been quite nauseating in its violence.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1285 on: January 09, 2013, 03:14:48 PM »
One of the biggest problems is that they don't appear to have any back bone. When things go against them they crumble, and we need experience to help deal with that. Clark should not be captain either.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1286 on: January 09, 2013, 03:34:28 PM »
How could we be worse if we sacked Lambert?  Could the defence get any worse?  Could we be more disorganised?  Could we score fewer goals?

We may - I pray - be sorting out signings right now. Some of them might be decent. Changing manager now would kybosh that for starters.

Put it this way, if we're not sorting out reinforcements, then I think we are fucked, whoever the manager.

I'd at least rather go down fighting than meekly giving up without a fight like we do under Lambert.  His idea to motivate people is to mutter something about "going again" and treating defeat and wins in the same way.  Does anybody imagine that Alex Ferguson treats his rare defeats in the same way he does a win?  I'm sorry, but Lambert is a small club manager in a similar style to Owen Coyle, who should have stayed where he was comfortable and left the big job to somebody else.  The only possible argument against getting rid of him is the thought of what that utter pair of cretins Lerner and Faulkner would try next.

You've no idea how Lambert reacts with the players. nor Ferguson for that matter (tea cup kicking episode aside).

I'm sick to death of the short-term thought process people are taking, more than I'm sick of being kicked every week.

We have to stick with someone that can take us forward, Lambert has been successful everywhere, as a player and manager.

I know it's difficult, christ, I'm in Birmingham today and it's not fun, that on top of the texts I received last night, however, we lost the first leg of a cup semi final. The time to judge is after the second leg at Villa Park. i.e. when the tie is over.

I know we've lost lots of other games badly, I'm not happy about that either, but I genuinely think we only need a couple of wisened heads in the mix to stop the rot and encourage the players. Anyone who thinks there is a quick fix for our club is in cloud cuckoo land.

Im with you mate I have had so much stick at work but its not half as bad as a lot of whinging Villa fans. I can take the abuse because as deluded as It may feel I have seen signs that we have some sort of decent football hidden beneath the crushing defeats.
 

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1287 on: January 09, 2013, 03:41:37 PM »
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Where do we go from here


Is it down the the lake I fear?

Aye.

Yi yi yi yi ya.

Offline He wears a magic hat

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1288 on: January 09, 2013, 03:59:06 PM »
I think we saw enough in the period leading up to the Chelsea game to suggest that we aren't that far away from being an OK team.

Buy a centre half, 2 experienced midfielders capable of controlling a game and stick Warnock back in at left back and we'll be fine.

Do nothing and we're fucked.

The board set out on this plan to reduce the wage bill and they selected a manager they believed was capable of achieving this whilst producing a side capable of staying in this division. Now is the time for them to stand up and be counted. Back him in the transfer window and pray that he is a good as we all thought he was when we spent the whole of the last game of last season singing his name

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1289 on: January 09, 2013, 04:01:30 PM »
I think we saw enough in the period leading up to the Chelsea game to suggest that we aren't that far away from being an OK team.

Buy a centre half, 2 experienced midfielders capable of controlling a game and stick Warnock back in at left back and we'll be fine.

Do nothing and we're fucked.

The board set out on this plan to reduce the wage bill and they selected a manager they believed was capable of achieving this whilst producing a side capable of staying in this division. Now is the time for them to stand up and be counted. Back him in the transfer window and pray that he is a good as we all thought he was when we spent the whole of the last game of last season singing his name
very reasonable post. you talk a lot of sense.

 


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