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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848049 times)

Offline NeilH

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1170 on: January 09, 2013, 07:31:03 AM »
One question remains with this debate though. Who replaces him. Curbishley seems to be the only viable out of work option. Di Matteo is an awful manager IMO, Roy Keane is the worst suggestion in history. Martin Laursen would at a minimum teach them passion and how to defend you would think!

Laursen should, at the very minimum, be brought in as a defensive consultant, as the current defensive coach is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

Is he a good coach? We shouldn't go down the route of getting ex players in as coach because they were popular as players.

He's had enough experience as a defender to know how to organize the back four. You cannot tell me, especially after last night, that our current coach seems especially competent in this aspect. We had frequent gaps that you could have fitted a double decker through and how often were they beaten in the air. What exactly are they being taught? The mind boggles.

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1171 on: January 09, 2013, 07:34:06 AM »
One question remains with this debate though. Who replaces him. Curbishley seems to be the only viable out of work option. Di Matteo is an awful manager IMO, Roy Keane is the worst suggestion in history. Martin Laursen would at a minimum teach them passion and how to defend you would think!

Laursen should, at the very minimum, be brought in as a defensive consultant, as the current defensive coach is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

Is he a good coach? We shouldn't go down the route of getting ex players in as coach because they were popular as players.

He's had enough experience as a defender to know how to organize the back four. You cannot tell me, especially after last night, that our current coach seems especially competent in this aspect. We had frequent gaps that you could have fitted a double decker through and how often were they beaten in the air. What exactly are they being taught? The mind boggles.

But our defenders just aren't good enough. It would be like putting lipstick on a pig. They need replacing.

Offline ROBBO

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1172 on: January 09, 2013, 07:38:35 AM »
I really like managers who oversee training, few and far between these days.

Offline NeilH

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1173 on: January 09, 2013, 07:38:58 AM »
One question remains with this debate though. Who replaces him. Curbishley seems to be the only viable out of work option. Di Matteo is an awful manager IMO, Roy Keane is the worst suggestion in history. Martin Laursen would at a minimum teach them passion and how to defend you would think!

Laursen should, at the very minimum, be brought in as a defensive consultant, as the current defensive coach is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

Is he a good coach? We shouldn't go down the route of getting ex players in as coach because they were popular as players.

He's had enough experience as a defender to know how to organize the back four. You cannot tell me, especially after last night, that our current coach seems especially competent in this aspect. We had frequent gaps that you could have fitted a double decker through and how often were they beaten in the air. What exactly are they being taught? The mind boggles.

But our defenders just aren't good enough. It would be like putting lipstick on a pig. They need replacing.

Some basic disipline would at least cancel out the comedy errors. There is no doubting that we need quality there, but the errors are so basic you have to ask yourself what is being taught. I did not see the Bradford defenders making such schoolboy errors and they are 4th Div players.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1174 on: January 09, 2013, 07:42:57 AM »
I've had enough. The last few weeks have been awful. If he went now, I don't think I'd be too bothered.

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1175 on: January 09, 2013, 07:44:18 AM »
The lack of other options will help keep him in his job.It beggers belief that of the new managers in the league this season Houghton , Laudrup and Clark we someone got the worst option.



It's the fact that we've got the worst chairman that is the square route of all our problems. All the above names would struggle at Villa Park.

They had better foundations but have Swansea WBA and Norwich got higher wages than us ?? Did they spend as much as us in Summer ?

Ill go as far to say any of them 3 with 25 mil net to spend would be doing better than Lambert is now.

Offline Jon Crofts

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1176 on: January 09, 2013, 07:44:42 AM »
Lose on Saturday & I expect Lambert to walk.  Just look at his body language & total lack of fuck last night in the last 15 minutes or so, in fact in any part of the game.  Him & Culverhouse whispering sweet nothings at each other, clueless.

Not that I blame him in entireity I might add, having to work for our useless absent owner under the conditions he set havent helped.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 07:46:52 AM by Jon Crofts »

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1177 on: January 09, 2013, 07:45:52 AM »
I've had enough. The last few weeks have been awful. If he went now, I don't think I'd be too bothered.

I'm nearly coming around to this POV, but it's yet another managerial change. I think we're going down now, the team is nowhere near good enough and requires a major rebuild. That can't be done overnight, let alone in the next three crucial months.

Offline Nev

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1178 on: January 09, 2013, 07:47:27 AM »
Judging by the mood on here (not always a good idea, I know), I detect a sea change after last night. It's not quite a lynch mob but the fans faith has been sorely tested and patience is running out.


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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1179 on: January 09, 2013, 07:54:21 AM »
Judging by the mood on here (not always a good idea, I know), I detect a sea change after last night. It's not quite a lynch mob but the fans faith has been sorely tested and patience is running out.

Yep, and you can't blame us really. The shocking form over Christmas, while not helped by injuries, has wounded the pride of the fans. I don't give a fuck if it was Chelsea, I don't give a fuck if it was Barcelona to be honest, losing 8-0 is an indelible stain on the club's history. Followed up by a nothing performance against a decent Spurs side, and then a hiding at home to fellow relegation candidates in a 6 pointer game has been incredibly hard to take.

Losing so heavily to a middling 4th division side, though, is the icing on the shit cake. Anything can happen in a cup tie, but the way in which Villa approached the game was unprofessional. Bradford made us look like the lower league team. I don't think Dave Woodhall was being serious about this being the worst defeat in our history, but it is another indicator that there is something rotten down at Villa Park that isn't being purged.

Offline nick harper

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1180 on: January 09, 2013, 08:31:29 AM »
One question remains with this debate though. Who replaces him. Curbishley seems to be the only viable out of work option. Di Matteo is an awful manager IMO, Roy Keane is the worst suggestion in history. Martin Laursen would at a minimum teach them passion and how to defend you would think!

Laursen should, at the very minimum, be brought in as a defensive consultant, as the current defensive coach is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.

Is he a good coach? We shouldn't go down the route of getting ex players in as coach because they were popular as players.

He's had enough experience as a defender to know how to organize the back four. You cannot tell me, especially after last night, that our current coach seems especially competent in this aspect. We had frequent gaps that you could have fitted a double decker through and how often were they beaten in the air. What exactly are they being taught? The mind boggles.

But our defenders just aren't good enough. It would be like putting lipstick on a pig. They need replacing.

Some basic disipline would at least cancel out the comedy errors. There is no doubting that we need quality there, but the errors are so basic you have to ask yourself what is being taught. I did not see the Bradford defenders making such schoolboy errors and they are 4th Div players.

I agree with this. Good coaching on defensive discipline can make average players organised and play to a shape. Longer term I don't know whether the defenders we have are good enough, but the guidance and direction they should receive at Premier League level but are clearly not receiving at the moment is making them look worse than they are.

Offline Chris Stares

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1181 on: January 09, 2013, 08:32:17 AM »
Judging by the mood on here (not always a good idea, I know), I detect a sea change after last night. It's not quite a lynch mob but the fans faith has been sorely tested and patience is running out.
Pretty much sums up the way I feel.

Offline citizenDJ

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1182 on: January 09, 2013, 08:42:01 AM »
Even though the timing is poor, it's not as poor as results and performances have been, and I think he should go. The things that Lambert is directly responsible for are falling very short of the mark. Organisation on the pitch, tactical astuteness, motivation, signs of improvement in individuals and as a team, all of those things have been poor and are getting significantly worse with each week.

Regardless of a lack of financial backing and whatnot, those things I listed are what I would consider the basic requirements in an effective manager, and he is not delivering them, not by a long stretch. If it were up to me, I'm afraid I'd sack him.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1183 on: January 09, 2013, 08:45:36 AM »
It's always worries me when I manager has nothing to do with the actual day to day training but prefers to sit behind a desk.I wish we had Chris Hughton

Offline London Villan

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1184 on: January 09, 2013, 08:52:08 AM »
Name a worse defeat in our history.

3-1 to a Fourth Division club is pathetic whatever way you look at it.

 


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