Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[Somniloquism]

It didn't take a genius to work out where AVB's 'revolution' was going wrong. DiMatteo just played their best players. Even Avram Grant managed to get them to within a gnat's pube of winning the Champions League.

Not taking up the point that the senior players ran the club and didn't want to play for AVB as he didn't let them do what they wanted, (Similar to Dunne, Collins and Warnock under Houllier), which better players hasn't he played. Bent is arguable although he was responsible for the worst miss of the night, but none of the others have shown this year or last that they are any better then the kids. It's not like they are being played instead of Cole, Lampard and Droghba.

[Risso]

I'm sorry, but Lambert is a small club manager in a similar style to Owen Coyle, who should have stayed where he was comfortable and left the big job to somebody else. 

Yep, just as you predicted in July Riss-bert

Quite, I understand Risso's annoyance, but that last post is somewhat at odds with how he took it when Lambert got the job.

Oh do wind it in, look at how excited everybody gets at the slightest whiff of a new player or manager.  Everybody was sure N'Zogbia was going to be a brilliant buy for us, and had their user names changed accordingly. 99% of people would drive him to where he wanted to go now. At least I do now realise that simply not being McLeish isn't a reason in itself for keeping somebody in a job. 

[pauliewalnuts]

It didn't take a genius to work out where AVB's 'revolution' was going wrong. DiMatteo just played their best players. Even Avram Grant managed to get them to within a gnat's pube of winning the Champions League.

Not taking up the point that the senior players ran the club and didn't want to play for AVB as he didn't let them do what they wanted, (Similar to Dunne, Collins and Warnock under Houllier), which better players hasn't he played. Bent is arguable although he was responsible for the worst miss of the night, but none of the others have shown this year or last that they are any better then the kids. It's not like they are being played instead of Cole, Lampard and Droghba.

Think you're missing the point.

He's saying that RDM's work at Chelsea was hardly an act of genius. He just played their best players, and their best players are world class.

Like you said, Lambert mostly plays ours, but ours are shit, and were RDM to come here and try to use the same approach he used at Chelsea, the results would no doubt be equally shit.

The fundamental problem we have that there's no getting away from - whether you rate the manager or not, whether you think he bought the worst players or not - is that too many of the players are simply not good enough.

This hasn't just happened overnight. All that money spunked over the last few years, all that money wasted, and look at the pathetic squad we have.

[Greg N'Ash]

One thing about Di matteo is he knew how to park the bus as did TSM. Lambert seems totally clueless in that respect.

[danlanza]

What's the point in sacking Lambert?

a) We'd be back to square one and further destabilise an already fragile unit b) We then spunk more money paying off Lambert and his staff (which could be spent on transfers) c) Who else is available? Bring in a Bruce/Warnock type to try and stave off relegation? No thanks.

Being a supporter means you have to rally through thick and thin. The Premier League has turned some footy fans into swivel-eyed nutters frothing about how the team 'aren't fit to wear the shirt' when things aren't going to plan. They demand more millions of good money to be thrown after bad when most of these people have never managed a budget bigger than their monthly wages.

I'm hurting and am sick of having my mood darkened every weekend by another ridiculous result, but knee-jerking isn't the answer.

PS Experienced heads in the window please.

Totally,totally right.

Spot.....Fucking......Sweary Tuesday Night On. No time for panick.

[Risso]

Quite right Greg, if we're going to stay up, we have to at least get the defence organised and there's no sign of Lambert doing that any time soon. 

[Somniloquism]

One thing about Di matteo is he knew how to park the bus as did TSM. Lambert seems totally clueless in that respect.

Di Matteo, yes, but he had the players and the luck in the matches he needed to do that. TSM wasn't as successful at it due to lacking both. Lambert hasn't the players although has had the luck in some matches.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm sorry, but Lambert is a small club manager in a similar style to Owen Coyle, who should have stayed where he was comfortable and left the big job to somebody else. 

Yep, just as you predicted in July Riss-bert

Quite, I understand Risso's annoyance, but that last post is somewhat at odds with how he took it when Lambert got the job.

Oh do wind it in, look at how excited everybody gets at the slightest whiff of a new player or manager.  Everybody was sure N'Zogbia was going to be a brilliant buy for us, and had their user names changed accordingly. 99% of people would drive him to where he wanted to go now. At least I do now realise that simply not being McLeish isn't a reason in itself for keeping somebody in a job. 

Missing the point.

You're saying he should have stayed where he was. I'm pointing out that, whilst he's turned out to be disappointing so far, to suggest he shouldn't have made the move at all is utter bollocks, as you - like the rest of us - were pleased with the appointment.

Slate him all you like, but that "shouldn't have come here in the first place" line is revisionist nonsense.

As for your McLeish point, I don't think for a moment not being him is enough, but it's a start, which is what every man jack of us was saying on here at the end of last season.

[claretandbeer]

I'm sorry, but Lambert is a small club manager in a similar style to Owen Coyle, who should have stayed where he was comfortable and left the big job to somebody else. 

Yep, just as you predicted in July Riss-bert

Quite, I understand Risso's annoyance, but that last post is somewhat at odds with how he took it when Lambert got the job.

Oh do wind it in, look at how excited everybody gets at the slightest whiff of a new player or manager.  Everybody was sure N'Zogbia was going to be a brilliant buy for us, and had their user names changed accordingly. 99% of people would drive him to where he wanted to go now. At least I do now realise that simply not being McLeish isn't a reason in itself for keeping somebody in a job.

So change the manager every half season.As others have said,who do we bring in ? Proven failure,Roy Keane ?  Di Matteo,whom Albion got rid of and have improved since that decision.
Gary Megson,he 'll wave his fists,demand 300%. And then look at the players,scout for new ones. And then you can ask for his head.Henry 8 was more faithful to his wives.

[Risso]

Our defenders play like they've been beheaded, so that's quite apt really.

[Irish villain]

Our problems set in whatever day it was somebody thought it would be cool to honour a new signing/manager by changing their username int heir honour.

I trace this to the Houllier era?

Enough said.

[claretandbeer]

One thing about Di matteo is he knew how to park the bus as did TSM. Lambert seems totally clueless in that respect.

The bus being Terry,Ivanovic,Cole,Cahill and Luiz,more a limousine. TSM parked 3 holding midfielders v Spurs and only thanks to a lucky deflection got a draw against 10 men.Did the same against the clueless,inept Lambert and was unlucky.

[Ross]

Worst goal scoring record and most goals conceded. Regular humiliations on a scale I can't remember from supporting villa for over 25 years. It isn't working and shows no signs off.

He's running out if excuses. Yes Lerner is at fault, but I am convinced it was PL's own strategy to buy the mix of young potential and foreign imports.  The people defending him at all costs seem to be in denial about this. He could have bought experience, he chose not to, and its not working.  If he isn't planning to rectify this immediately he should go tomorrow. I just pray our targets re the likes of Lescott rather than league 1 prospects again.

His stubbornness could be seen as a show of strength but it needs to backed with sound judgement (like a Fergie).  The whole transfer policy and handling of Bent leaves me thinking that his stubbornness is to the detriment of the team.

[olaftab]

Still in for me.

[Somniloquism]

I'm sorry, but Lambert is a small club manager in a similar style to Owen Coyle, who should have stayed where he was comfortable and left the big job to somebody else. 

Yep, just as you predicted in July Riss-bert

Quite, I understand Risso's annoyance, but that last post is somewhat at odds with how he took it when Lambert got the job.

Oh do wind it in, look at how excited everybody gets at the slightest whiff of a new player or manager.  Everybody was sure N'Zogbia was going to be a brilliant buy for us, and had their user names changed accordingly. 99% of people would drive him to where he wanted to go now. At least I do now realise that simply not being McLeish isn't a reason in itself for keeping somebody in a job.

But the difference between some of us and you is that your view is changing the manager is going to fix everything.

Look at McLeish's puchases compared to Lambert's on a similar spend. Obviously for yourself, every player Lambert has bought is shit. But for most others, they can see Westwood, Benteke and Lowton look like very good players who could improve massively with experienced players. And Guzan who was fobbed off by TSM looks a better bet then Given now. Bennett has some good play but looks poor more and more and the same with KEA.

But from Alex, we have been saddled with the aforementioned N'zog, an equally inexperienced Stevens, a potentially bad Holman and a rapidly aging Given one year into a five year contract. We also had an injury prone Jenas in the midfield experience role on loan. The only transfer decision he made that was an improvement was Keane and he was only for a month so you can't really