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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848126 times)

Offline saunders_heroes

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1050 on: January 08, 2013, 10:30:49 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

I don't see the point though. Lerner won't allow any manager to sign PL standard players. He wants a team full of lower league players on practically YTS wages. That why we're in trouble.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1051 on: January 08, 2013, 10:33:51 PM »
Even if he is given money to buy players in the window and even if decent players would want to come the damage has already been done.   There is no spirit, no leadership, no self belief, no self respect.   You could put James Milner and Gareth Barry and Ashley Young and Stewart Downing back in that side and it would continue to lose because the club, the team and the manager have all lost their way.   From the minute I saw our team walk on the pitch on Boxing Day I knew they were f*cked and we were f*cked.   Their attitude, their body language their entire physical presence screamed out that nothing had been done to wipe the Chelsea slate clean.   That 8-0 hug around their necks like an albatross on Boxing Day and it hangs around them still.   Paul Lambert has totally failed to lift and direct a young and naive team.   Like I said on another thread watching this Villa team is like looking in a classroom of children with no teacher trying to educate themselves.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1052 on: January 08, 2013, 10:34:05 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

I don't see the point though. Lerner won't allow any manager to sign PL standard players. He wants a team full of lower league players on practically YTS wages. That why we're in trouble.

That's the thing a lot of people don't seem to get.

Yes, blah blah blah, Lambert bought these players, but if he's been given a restrictive wage bill to work with - and this is the club which have spent three years talking about nothing BUT the wage bill, so it doesn't take much of a trip of the imagination - then he's going to be limited in the sort of player he can get in.

It doesn't excuse everything that has gone on, far from it, but really, the mix of youth and experience as a result of that policy is totally, totally wrong.

Whoever it was at the club who thought so many of our youth products would all turn out to be good enough was absolutely fucking nuts, because so far this season, they've suggested totally the opposite.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1053 on: January 08, 2013, 10:35:46 PM »
I only want a manger that will, at the very least, motivate and inspire players to give it maximum effort. I will draw your attention to it again. Nathan Baker for the second goal, slow, ponderous and not really bothered. Now we can hang the player, but what will that achieve? He should have ran for his life, as if his life depended on it.

I hate to draw comparisons, but the regardless of money and status, the very best can do it. Is it too much to ask the very average to as well?

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1054 on: January 08, 2013, 10:36:08 PM »
Can we reset the poll please so that I can vote again?

Done a long time ago. Click on remove vote.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1055 on: January 08, 2013, 10:36:52 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

The problem is any new manager will still have the same squad that we have now which is a culmination of the dross purchased by MON, GH, TSM and now PL.

They say every manager gets a few transfers wrong, we are stuck with what's left of four managers wrong decisions, plus the kids and Lambert's decent ones.

I'd hope for a new manager bounce. Debatable whether we had that with Lambert but we did win vs Swansea and got a decent point at Newcastle in his first 4 games.

We need to win 5 games to survive. Southampton, QPR, Fulham and Newcastle at home and Reading away are the ones I'm looking at.

If we don't beat Southampton, I don't have much faith we'll win many more under lambert tbh.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1056 on: January 08, 2013, 10:37:26 PM »
Bennett is bad, but my word - our central midfielders and centre backs are absolutely terrible.

Bannan, Delph, Clark and Baker. None of them are good enough. Baker you can forgive, he's very raw. But the others have no excuses at the minute.

Let's hope Vlaar is close and Dunne is in shape to play when he's fit.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1057 on: January 08, 2013, 10:37:41 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

I don't see the point though. Lerner won't allow any manager to sign PL standard players. He wants a team full of lower league players on practically YTS wages. That why we're in trouble.

That's the thing a lot of people don't seem to get.

Yes, blah blah blah, Lambert bought these players, but if he's been given a restrictive wage bill to work with - and this is the club which have spent three years talking about nothing BUT the wage bill, so it doesn't take much of a trip of the imagination - then he's going to be limited in the sort of player he can get in.

It doesn't excuse everything that has gone on, far from it, but really, the mix of youth and experience as a result of that policy is totally, totally wrong.

Whoever it was at the club who thought so many of our youth products would all turn out to be good enough was absolutely fucking nuts, because so far this season, they've suggested totally the opposite.
That buck stop's with Paul Faulkner.He run's the fucking shambles.He has to go and quick.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1058 on: January 08, 2013, 10:39:46 PM »
It is a horrible situation right now.

I can't see how sacking him would be more likely to fix things than sticking with him, especially not given the fact we're 8 days into the January window. Then again, I can't see how Lambert can manage a sequence of results like we've just had and not feel obliged to offer his resignation.

Ever since the Liverpool result, we've genuinely been an absolute laughing stock, and the annoying thing is that so much of it has been live on telly to the nation. being embarrassed like that isn't a bag of laughs.

What's even less funny is the realisation that you can't see what could possibly make it stop, other than the end of the season.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1059 on: January 08, 2013, 10:40:04 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

I don't see the point though. Lerner won't allow any manager to sign PL standard players. He wants a team full of lower league players on practically YTS wages. That why we're in trouble.

That's the thing a lot of people don't seem to get.

Yes, blah blah blah, Lambert bought these players, but if he's been given a restrictive wage bill to work with - and this is the club which have spent three years talking about nothing BUT the wage bill, so it doesn't take much of a trip of the imagination - then he's going to be limited in the sort of player he can get in.

It doesn't excuse everything that has gone on, far from it, but really, the mix of youth and experience as a result of that policy is totally, totally wrong.

Whoever it was at the club who thought so many of our youth products would all turn out to be good enough was absolutely fucking nuts, because so far this season, they've suggested totally the opposite.
That buck stop's with Paul Faulkner.He run's the fucking shambles.He has to go and quick.

I disagree. Faulkner may well be doing a shit job,  but if someone does a shit job, month after month, year after year, it's the guy who appoints him and fails to dismiss him who should be held accountable.

By his state of continued employment at the club, I can only assume Faulkner is living up to Lerner's expectations.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1060 on: January 08, 2013, 10:41:48 PM »
Di Matteo on an 18 month contract I would take.

And if the worst happens you can apply the same as with Lambert as he got WBA out of the championship first time.

I don't see the point though. Lerner won't allow any manager to sign PL standard players. He wants a team full of lower league players on practically YTS wages. That why we're in trouble.

That's the thing a lot of people don't seem to get.

Yes, blah blah blah, Lambert bought these players, but if he's been given a restrictive wage bill to work with - and this is the club which have spent three years talking about nothing BUT the wage bill, so it doesn't take much of a trip of the imagination - then he's going to be limited in the sort of player he can get in.

Had Clint Dempsey agreed to join us in the summer am I to assume we'd have offered him £20k a week?

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1061 on: January 08, 2013, 10:41:49 PM »
I honestly can't see how we'd possibly be any worse under almost any manager you could care to mention.  It just hasn't worked with Lambert.  I take the point about the wage restrictions etc, but the fact is that he can't organise the players he has.  Bennett looks about as ready for the Premier League as my four year old son.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1062 on: January 08, 2013, 10:41:50 PM »
Am I right in thinking the club have sent Dunne to America to get him fit?

Hopefully that's not just to keep him away from the place. We could do with him (and Vlaar) in the defence at the minute. We should even look at Warnock.

Hutton can stay at home.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1063 on: January 08, 2013, 10:43:01 PM »
Delighted to see that Guardiola has decided the time is right to return to management.

Nobody will convince me that that's a coincidence.

I reckon he's been plotting our results and performances, and had his technical team calculate the best point at which to announce his return to the game, all so he can bag the big B6 job.

Coupled with the fact he speaks better English than Lambert, David Villa, Dani Alves & Alexis Sanchez being linked with moves away its going to be one hell of a 2013. Will Neymar partner Bowery or Villa?

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1064 on: January 08, 2013, 10:43:10 PM »
I'm no fan of Faulkner but Lambert was a popular choice. The problem is it doesn't always work, we knew TSM wouldn't work but up until tonight I thought TOSM would.


 


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