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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848068 times)

Offline Chipsticks

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1020 on: January 08, 2013, 10:13:11 PM »
I still don't think getting rid of Lambert will solve anything. As I've said before: I'd rather be on a rickety ship made of wood with the man who built it, than a fantastic cruise liner controlled by a passenger.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1021 on: January 08, 2013, 10:13:18 PM »
If Lambert doesn't buy at least one proper midfielder by the game against WBA I'm gonna be convinced that he's fucking clueless. How in the hell he could keep Bannan and Delph on after yet another shambolic performance by those "players" is beyond my comprehension.

That's the thing.

If we somehow survive this season then I think to future seasons when we might have a better team and will hopefully be competiting in the right half of the league. I think who out of the current squad who will still be playing in a couple of years time in a better team. I think of Guzan, Benteke, Weimann, Lowton and then I come to midfield, a total shambles.

I do think Westwood is a potential class act but Bannan and Delph are championship standard footballers imo, the way our midfield has declined so much in two years sums up our decline.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1022 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:04 PM »
This isn't with the benefit of hindsight but I was never sure why people were so desperate for him to become the manager of Aston Villa, was it simply a case of anybody will do as long as it's not Mcleish?

Yep, and that's the only reason he hasn't got dog's abuse this season.  People keep harping on about how they can see Lambert has a plan, but I think tonight has shown on top of other recent performances that he hasn't got a clue.

Before he came I was much more sceptical than most, the MON thing and his defense at Norwich was leaky, but I like his idea of building from the bottom up. He has been hit with the squad he took over being significantly more shit than he estimated though I think.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1023 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:08 PM »
TBH, I'm still for him (just), but I do wonder what he and Lerner have been doing for the last two months in identifying players required in January. We knew we didn't have a massive squad and even if everyone was fit, would have needed to get some players in this month anyway. Targets should have been lined up early, especially with the run of games we had over Xmas and into the first half of this month. Yet we are lead to believe that the discussions on transfer was done the day after the Wigan game.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1024 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:41 PM »
This isn't with the benefit of hindsight but I was never sure why people were so desperate for him to become the manager of Aston Villa, was it simply a case of anybody will do as long as it's not Mcleish?

Yep, and that's the only reason he hasn't got dog's abuse this season.  People keep harping on about how they can see Lambert has a plan, but I think tonight has shown on top of other recent performances that he hasn't got a clue.
Tonight's result is adding evidence to your argument about PL.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1025 on: January 08, 2013, 10:14:58 PM »
Right I'm going to ultra harsh and down the line on this, there are four/five players who might/would get in other premier league teams at the moment. They are -

Guzan
Lowton
Weimann
Benteke
Bent

One of those are manager doesn't even play.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1026 on: January 08, 2013, 10:15:26 PM »
I have to say out ..has he got the best players at his disposals ..no but fuck me after half a season you think they would be drilled enough to follow some kind of tatics.We are all over the place every match.The defenders ball watch and chase around like headless chickens pulled out of position.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1027 on: January 08, 2013, 10:15:27 PM »
I've launched a spirited defence of the manager before but after what I've have seen tonight I can no longer defend the indefensible.

It is not the opposition, the competition or indeed the result but the attitude. The half arsed attempt from Baker to clear his lines for the second goal did it for me. Players should run through brick walls for Aston Villa, I expect the manager to make that clear. Tonight the players didn't look particularly bothered but most damning of all, nor did the manager. A team plays in the image of it's manager.

We may get to Wembley, we may even stay up, but tonight, Paul Lambert looked nothing like an Aston Villa manager.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1028 on: January 08, 2013, 10:15:46 PM »
The only good thing about this manager is that when he makes his excuses for the players and his excuses for himself I can't understand a f*cking word he is saying.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1029 on: January 08, 2013, 10:15:50 PM »
There are bound to be boos after tonight, but I think he will still have the support of the crowd going into the weekend. Play badly and lose though, and I reckon its going to get very difficult for him. Trouble is, sack him, with 2 weeks of the window left, you have to appoint very quickly, and then give them some money very quickly. For me it is better to sit him down and say how much do we need and which players. over the age of 25 will lead us out of this.

But Lambert hasn't any experience of being in this position Oz.  He put together a decent team who came up through the divisions together, with no real pressure on them.  This is an entirely different situation, Lambert bought a lot of the players who have got us into this position, so I have little confidence that even if given some decent cash that he'd be able to identify and sign the players we need to stay up.  He certainly can't organise or motivate the players we have at the moment.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1030 on: January 08, 2013, 10:16:04 PM »
This isn't with the benefit of hindsight but I was never sure why people were so desperate for him to become the manager of Aston Villa, was it simply a case of anybody will do as long as it's not Mcleish?

Yep, and that's the only reason he hasn't got dog's abuse this season.  People keep harping on about how they can see Lambert has a plan, but I think tonight has shown on top of other recent performances that he hasn't got a clue.

Agree with you

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1031 on: January 08, 2013, 10:16:14 PM »
Westwood is a potential star, but let's not forget, he was playing at Crewe until recently, so there's still a way to go till he can totally prove himself.

I just look at that squad and see so many who patently are not up to it, and it scares me to death. Then there's the fact that, maybe some of the younger players we have bought or grown will be good enough one day, but they're currently getting destroyed week in, week out, which is going to ruin any chance they have.

I'd gladly never see Fabian Delph in a Villa shirt again. Did we really pay £6m for him? Really? Bannan, too, seems to spend most matches trying to hit ridiculous Hollywood passes.

Just utter shite.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1032 on: January 08, 2013, 10:16:34 PM »
There are bound to be boos after tonight, but I think he will still have the support of the crowd going into the weekend. Play badly and lose though, and I reckon its going to get very difficult for him. Trouble is, sack him, with 2 weeks of the window left, you have to appoint very quickly, and then give them some money very quickly. For me it is better to sit him down and say how much do we need and which players. over the age of 25 will lead us out of this.

Agreed.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1033 on: January 08, 2013, 10:17:05 PM »
I've launched a spirited defence of the manager before but after what I've have seen tonight I can no longer defend the indefensible.

It is not the opposition, the competition or indeed the result but the attitude. The half arsed attempt from Baker to clear his lines for the second goal did it for me. Players should run through brick walls for Aston Villa, I expect the manager to make that clear. Tonight the players didn't look particularly bothered but most damning of all, nor did the manager. A team plays in the image of it's manager.

We may get to Wembley, we may even stay up, but tonight, Paul Lambert looked nothing like an Aston Villa manager.
You know, this actually looks nothing like an Aston Villa team.
Really.

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Re: Lambert in or out?
« Reply #1034 on: January 08, 2013, 10:17:26 PM »
He's shown nothing so far to make me feel he's even better than McLeish. And if the Ginger one had been producing the kind of dross Lambert has, he'd have been hung from the tallest lampost in Witton by now.

He hasn't got a clue

Thank you TSM
SLB - hindsight is a wonderful thing.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 10:26:13 PM by Louzie0 »

 


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