Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May

[ozzjim]

Then why did we sack McLeish?  Why not give him a chance?  I couldn't give two fucks that he managed SHA, yet he performed much better than Lambert has to date.

Much better? Possible cup final and almost the same points to game ratio if you take Eck over the whole season. He has got 3 seasons of chopping, changing and no established squad or style of play to combat.

As for the crap Lambert signed last summer, imagine, for a second, with the 22 million he spent, he had bought in 4 players. Say a centre back, centre mid, forward and full back. Would we be better off, with the same injury crisis? I don't think so. I reckon he thought Dunne would be back 4-6 weeks into the season, Bent was a different character to the one he found, Ireland was not quite as fecking useless and he tried Hutton and Warnock and they were that poor in friendlies he had to replace them ASAP. Lowton is a significant improvement, Bennett isn't yet, although last season Warnock was a walking disaster. I am interested to see what we sign in January. If Stephens is as good as Westwood in the middle great. If he spots the weaknesses he clearly did last summer then again great. He has had 1 window, woeful injuries and no time. We have to stick with someone and I would sooner Lambert that the reportedly lazy and pretty shit manager Di Matteo, Roy been shit everywhere Keane, or Sam big gob Allardyce. Lambert leaving we would end up regretting in 3-4 years as his team come to VP and batter us.

[Goldie.7]

Out! Out! Out!

We should of been at least 4 down before we equalised yesterday for me he's absolutely clueless and got to go. Like 90% of these so called professional players we have. I wouldn't even call them pub players their much worse than that!

Clark is one of the worst Defender in the Prem by a mile. It'a a disgrace that he anywhere near the First Team.

[Goldie.7]

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[dave.woodhall]

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Indeed.

[Dave Clark Five]

Out! Out! Out!

We should of been at least 4 down before we equalised yesterday for me he's absolutely clueless and got to go. Like 90% of these so called professional players we have. I wouldn't even call them pub players their much worse than that!

Clark is one of the worst Defender in the Prem by a mile. It'a a disgrace that he anywhere near the First Team.

We should have been 4-0 down. You are right about that.
Incidentally, who would you have picked from the available players and where would you have played them?

[LeeB]

Way i see it we were lucky. No two ways about it, another day and we'd have been going in at half time 3/4 nil down. However when we did go behind, the heads didn't drop which is a massive plus in itself. Gotta hope the confidence is coming back because it doesn't look hopeful on the injury front - Concerned that the fans don't get on the players back if we start badly in the next home game or i fear it could be another disaster. ..#randygetyourchequebookout.

#instantbanforthishashtagnonesense

[mr underhill]

hasn't Randy consistently got his cheque book out? I can't think of another Chairman/Owner who has sunk more money into the club. If there has been, I apologose. i think RL has many shortcomings as a businessman but I don't think you can ever acuse the guy of not backing the club financially. IMO things would improve dramatically with a CEO who combined PF's obvious commercial acumen and marketing skills with an in depth knowlege of how to run a major football club

[ozzjim]

hasn't Randy consistently got his cheque book out? I can't think of another Chairman/Owner who has sunk more money into the club. If there has been, I apologose. i think RL has many shortcomings as a businessman but I don't think you can ever acuse the guy of not backing the club financially. IMO things would improve dramatically with a CEO who combined PF's obvious commercial acumen and marketing skills with an in depth knowlege of how to run a major football club

I agree totally. PF has done some very good things off the field, and the devil incarnate, sorry Randy, can hardly be accused of not putting money in. Just been used very, very badly.

[Californian Villain]

hasn't Randy consistently got his cheque book out? I can't think of another Chairman/Owner who has sunk more money into the club. If there has been, I apologose. i think RL has many shortcomings as a businessman but I don't think you can ever acuse the guy of not backing the club financially. IMO things would improve dramatically with a CEO who combined PF's obvious commercial acumen and marketing skills with an in depth knowlege of how to run a major football club

Abramovich? Or the geezer at Man City?

[Mister E]

Give the bloke a chance, why not. Changing managers every season has got us nowhere and costs a fortune.

I think that's the point.  Most people are behind Lambert not because he appears to have a plan or because he appears to know what he's doing or because we're playing good football but simply because the alternative - sacking him and waiting in terrified anticipation of Lerner's next fuck up - is so unpalatable.

Well, this argument is hogwash, Hilts.
Most of the people I sit with and speak to support Lambert because he appears to have a vision of the future, is playing far more progressive football than we've seen for 30 months and appears to be running a meritocratic selection system. These factors necessarily mean that we're taking big risks and - from what he is now saying - the need for more experienced players will be somewhat addressed this month.

I'll stick with the PL project for a while yet before giving up.

[N'ZMAV]

Stability breeds more sucess than constantly chopping and changing managers? Chelsea haven't done too badly when changing managers often, much better than Arsenal. I'm not suggesting we chop Lambert, far from it. I rate him and he still has my support. Just saying..

[LeeB]

Give the bloke a chance, why not. Changing managers every season has got us nowhere and costs a fortune.

I think that's the point.  Most people are behind Lambert not because he appears to have a plan or because he appears to know what he's doing or because we're playing good football but simply because the alternative - sacking him and waiting in terrified anticipation of Lerner's next fuck up - is so unpalatable.

Well, this argument is hogwash, Hilts.
Most of the people I sit with and speak to support Lambert because he appears to have a vision of the future, is playing far more progressive football than we've seen for 30 months and appears to be running a meritocratic selection system. These factors necessarily mean that we're taking big risks and - from what he is now saying - the need for more experienced players will be somewhat addressed this month.

I'll stick with the PL project for a while yet before giving up.

It doesn't speak for me either.

[LeeB]

Stability breeds more sucess than constantly chopping and changing managers? Chelsea haven't done too badly when changing managers often, much better than Arsenal. I'm not suggesting we chop Lambert, far from it. I rate him and he still has my support. Just saying..

It doesn't hurt Chelsea because they've always got world class players.

[N'ZMAV]

Stability breeds more sucess than constantly chopping and changing managers? Chelsea haven't done too badly when changing managers often, much better than Arsenal. I'm not suggesting we chop Lambert, far from it. I rate him and he still has my support. Just saying..

It doesn't hurt Chelsea because they've always got world class players.

Yes, that's a point I had in mind too. It's easier for the likes of Man Utd and Arsenal etc to have a steady ship, as they have a mass of class resources to keep results in their favour.

Everton are a good example of 'relative' sucess. It's took them a long time to get as consistant as they are now.

[Goldie.7]

Out! Out! Out!

We should of been at least 4 down before we equalised yesterday for me he's absolutely clueless and got to go. Like 90% of these so called professional players we have. I wouldn't even call them pub players their much worse than that!

Clark is one of the worst Defender in the Prem by a mile. It'a a disgrace that he anywhere near the First Team.

We should have been 4-0 down. You are right about that.
Incidentally, who would you have picked from the available players and where would you have played them?

Look i really want to see Villa doing well like all of us but when one your best mates is a Tesco Bag supporter it really starts to piss you off after a bit. We didn't tell the club to sell all the best players did we. They wanted the money now we have to endure the misery because it's definitely not fun anymore. These players aren't good enough to wear the Claret and Blue, when it comes down to it they aren't very good footballers either. If we were shit at our jobs how long would it be before we get shown the door.

There's nothing else we can do but moan because going down to VP doesn't do much these days four home wins in the whole of 2012 is disgusting. One of them was a goalkeeping error, so three decent wins in a year how anyone finds this acceptable is beyond me we are ASTON VILLA.