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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848184 times)

Offline Steve R

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #465 on: December 31, 2012, 05:57:53 PM »
Why am I not surprised you fools are dissing Wilko and his tidy shed?

Hataz gonna hate

You forgot the obligatory meme pic:



The cat is Wilko.

Off topic but I don't get this picture...

It's a cat goose stepping. Another thing in Wilko's favour. He does come across as the kind of supremo who would make the trains run on time.

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #466 on: December 31, 2012, 06:17:20 PM »
Sack Lambert and bring in Wilko the cat.


Offline KevinGage

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #467 on: December 31, 2012, 06:55:23 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix purely to change the players?

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.


Tend to agree.

I get Risso's anger.  100%   

And Lambert is far from blameless in all this.

But -as dire as we've been all season- if we repeat the sequence of results we've managed in the first half of the campaign, we *should* be safe. 

Forget all talk (for the moment) of long term plans and style of football.  It ultimately comes down to whether you think Lambert needs to be potted to keep us up. 

I don't.  Not yet. 

Online WarszaVillan

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #468 on: December 31, 2012, 07:01:59 PM »
Extend Lambert's contract now.Bit of positivity ,eh ? Last year,Lambert was the manager who changed his formations and tactics the most in the PL to combat the opposition.His faith in the squad has been misplaced,injuries not helping,and now he has a transfer window to address the problems or,at least ,some of the problems.

And yet his tactics lately have been appalling. 

Not always they haven't sometimes they've been right. Almost from day one you were picking on his post-match comments of 'we'll go again', etc..  To tell you the truth I just can't face being angry with another manager. Houllier, Lambert and even TSM are not the worst managers in the world but we've been struggling for the last two and a half years. There is something deeper going on, we have to back the manager and if things don't improve its time to vent our anger elsewhere, i.e. Randy and co.

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #469 on: December 31, 2012, 07:03:29 PM »
If Southampton get a 0-0 draw or better from their game in hand, then we'll be in the bottom three, so I'm not sure how it works out that we'd stay up if the results thus far were repeated.  The worrying thing is that clubs around us seem to be playing better than us at the moment.

Offline peter w

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #470 on: December 31, 2012, 07:10:34 PM »
Playing better than us and still not far out of our reach above us. There are also 3 teams below us. Never mind Southampton's game in hand they're in the bottom 3 for a reason and that is that they probably wil get nothing out of that game.

Anyway, it's not pretty just now but 3games, 15-0, and we're not cut adrift and in a hopeless position. It will get better if only because it cannot get much worse. But a few points here and there in the next month and we'll be back up a place to two fighting with the rest of the dross to stay up. It's not pretty but it certainly isn't hopeless.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #471 on: December 31, 2012, 07:15:11 PM »
Playing better than us and still not far out of our reach above us. There are also 3 teams below us. Never mind Southampton's game in hand they're in the bottom 3 for a reason and that is that they probably wil get nothing out of that game.

Anyway, it's not pretty just now but 3games, 15-0, and we're not cut adrift and in a hopeless position. It will get better if only because it cannot get much worse. But a few points here and there in the next month and we'll be back up a place to two fighting with the rest of the dross to stay up. It's not pretty but it certainly isn't hopeless.

I think west ham could still slip into trouble as well, they seem to be hitting a bad spell.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #472 on: December 31, 2012, 07:17:48 PM »
Maths was never my strong point, but after 19 games we had 18 points.

If -after another 18 games we have a further 18 points- we should be safe on 36.

Admittedly, that's banking on the the shiteness of others.  But it also ignores the possibility that we *might* improve over the next half of the season, depending on the business we do in this window.

In which case, 36 points would be a conservative guesstimate. 


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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #473 on: December 31, 2012, 07:21:03 PM »
If Southampton get a 0-0 draw or better from their game in hand, then we'll be in the bottom three, so I'm not sure how it works out that we'd stay up if the results thus far were repeated.  The worrying thing is that clubs around us seem to be playing better than us at the moment.

They'll get smashed all over the place in their game in hand.

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #474 on: December 31, 2012, 07:25:04 PM »
Maths was never my strong point, but after 19 games we had 18 points.

If -after another 18 games we have a further 18 points- we should be safe on 36.

Admittedly, that's banking on the the shiteness of others.  But it also ignores the possibility that we *might* improve over the next half of the season, depending on the business we do in this window.

In which case, 36 points would be a conservative guesstimate. 



It's not hugely positive though is it?

Offline AVFCRob

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #475 on: December 31, 2012, 07:48:20 PM »
According to the Graun, Lambert has accepted that he has to sign players with Prem experience: click

This is an excellent piece and a refreshing, objective antidote to the 'keep the faith', 'We'll never go down' complacency that is too prevalent on here.

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #476 on: December 31, 2012, 08:12:24 PM »
Maths was never my strong point, but after 19 games we had 18 points.

If -after another 18 games we have a further 18 points- we should be safe on 36.

Admittedly, that's banking on the the shiteness of others.  But it also ignores the possibility that we *might* improve over the next half of the season, depending on the business we do in this window.

In which case, 36 points would be a conservative guesstimate. 



It's not hugely positive though is it?

Fuck no. 

But in a season where we've recorded our record defeat and our worst start to the campaign since Steve Sims was in (even shorter) trousers, we have the possibility of a LC final.

Who knows, if Swansea do the business over two legs (or Roman's lot get struck down with food poisoning) we might even win the thing.

We're not completely hopeless, despite some abysmal results recently.

Offline MarkM

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #477 on: December 31, 2012, 08:57:43 PM »
According to the Graun, Lambert has accepted that he has to sign players with Prem experience: click

This is an excellent piece and a refreshing, objective antidote to the 'keep the faith', 'We'll never go down' complacency that is too prevalent on here.

A good piece

Offline Ger Regan

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #478 on: December 31, 2012, 09:36:08 PM »
Maths was never my strong point, but after 19 games we had 18 points.

If -after another 18 games we have a further 18 points- we should be safe on 36.

Admittedly, that's banking on the the shiteness of others.  But it also ignores the possibility that we *might* improve over the next half of the season, depending on the business we do in this window.

In which case, 36 points would be a conservative guesstimate. 



It's not hugely positive though is it?
You've still not provided a credible alternative to lambert though. Sacking him would only be half a potential solution.

Offline danlanza

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #479 on: December 31, 2012, 09:45:58 PM »
According to the Graun, Lambert has accepted that he has to sign players with Prem experience: click

This is an excellent piece and a refreshing, objective antidote to the 'keep the faith', 'We'll never go down' complacency that is too prevalent on here.
It is not complacency, it is belief in our team and our manager. Thank fuck some of us still have it.

 


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