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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848094 times)

Offline claretandbeer

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #450 on: December 31, 2012, 01:32:29 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix purely to change the players?
Spot on.And how much do we keep losing by paying off managers and staff and hiring new ones?

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.

Offline claretandbeer

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #451 on: December 31, 2012, 01:35:34 PM »
Should have added in agreement with pauliewalnuts comments and also how much money have we lost by paying off managers and staff and hiring new ones?

Offline midnite

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #452 on: December 31, 2012, 01:36:01 PM »
This is no way a pop at lambert. I do rate him and I was one of the people who wanted him as manager.

This is his time to earn is salary now. He need to regroup the team for tomorrow. He need to get the right calibre of player in as soon as he possibly can and he needs to turn this around. We're not dead and buried yet. There's still plenty of points to take. We are only a few signings away from being a good strong side. It's just at the moment the kids out there are getting slaughtered and there's no one on the pitch that they can turn to or that has the experience to dig themselves out of the situation.

Offline villan1975

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #453 on: December 31, 2012, 01:39:01 PM »
Chris Hughton anyone? He is doing a great job with Lamberts old players.

Only kidding as we have to stick with Lambert and give him time like we did

with that idiot we had last year. As others have said he needs to change his tactics and learn.

As much as I dislike Harry he changed QPRs game yesterday with tactical subs and stopped them

getting a crushing defeat.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #454 on: December 31, 2012, 01:48:59 PM »

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.

Absolutely bang on the money for me.

Offline Boz

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #455 on: December 31, 2012, 01:50:21 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix purely to change the players?

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.

Have to agree with Paulie, now is not the time to change managers yet again. PL has to have another season to give policies a chance to work, even if we're relegated.

Are there any rumours emerging from PL's meeting with RL yesterday?

Offline claretandbeer

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #456 on: December 31, 2012, 01:52:37 PM »
Extend Lambert's contract now.Bit of positivity ,eh ? Last year,Lambert was the manager who changed his formations and tactics the most in the PL to combat the opposition.His faith in the squad has been misplaced,injuries not helping,and now he has a transfer window to address the problems or,at least ,some of the problems.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #457 on: December 31, 2012, 01:54:16 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix
purely to change the players?

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.


Yes. It is the overall state that we were in last season with the resources new had that has carried over into this season. People clamour for players like Dunne to come back, who they previously couldn't drive out of the club quick enough.
That smells of panic setting in to me.
We can't panic. There is only one way out and we all know it; that is more experience on the pitch.
That will be hard to find. Even harder by bringing a new manager in who would probably be expected to wave a magic wand with the current squad. What a disaster that would be. They certainly won't bring in a new manager AND spend loads on transfers.
Paul Lambert knows what we have and what we need. Give him the chance to do it.

By the way, my original comment on brainwashing was just to tease out if anyone still blamed McLeish's tactics for the current state of affairs.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 01:56:19 PM by Dave Clark Five »

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #458 on: December 31, 2012, 02:01:09 PM »
Players seem  to get better when they're not playing. Cuellar was the perfect example.

Offline Villain1874

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #459 on: December 31, 2012, 03:31:52 PM »
Paul Lambert was not my first choice as Manager but I supported his appointment.
I still support Paul and changing Manager now is not the right course of action for me, he needs to be judged at the end of the season.
Paul also needs that little bit of luck when it comes to our injury list, he also needs to bring in a few quality players during the transfer window.
Our problems are wide and various which in most part had nothing to do with Mr Lambert..
There is a lot of work to do at Villa and we have to give Paul time to sort out the mess were in at the moment...

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #460 on: December 31, 2012, 03:48:56 PM »
Extend Lambert's contract now.Bit of positivity ,eh ? Last year,Lambert was the manager who changed his formations and tactics the most in the PL to combat the opposition.His faith in the squad has been misplaced,injuries not helping,and now he has a transfer window to address the problems or,at least ,some of the problems.

And yet his tactics lately have been appalling. 

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #461 on: December 31, 2012, 04:00:40 PM »
Chris Hughton anyone? He is doing a great job with Lamberts old players.

That's who we should have got instead of McLeish last season.

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #462 on: December 31, 2012, 04:05:21 PM »
Chris Hughton anyone? He is doing a great job with Lamberts old players.

That's who we should have got instead of McLeish last season.
That's exactly what I thought when Blues employed him.I was gutted

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #463 on: December 31, 2012, 04:18:10 PM »
There is no alternative but to stick with Lambert  but I think if we continue to get walloped week in week out RL will have no option

god help him If we get walloped 4-0 tomorrow

Offline JUAN PABLO

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #464 on: December 31, 2012, 04:20:17 PM »
Chris Hughton anyone? He is doing a great job with Lamberts old players.

Only kidding as we have to stick with Lambert and give him time like we did

with that idiot we had last year. As others have said he needs to change his tactics and learn.

As much as I dislike Harry he changed QPRs game yesterday with tactical subs and stopped them

getting a crushing defeat.
talking of Harry

I heard he is calling back Dj Campbell , bothroyd and Hulse , so we could stay up yet ;)

 


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