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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848092 times)

Offline danlanza

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #435 on: December 31, 2012, 12:28:04 PM »
We are not going down and Lambert will get it right.

Offline damon loves JT

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #436 on: December 31, 2012, 12:32:45 PM »
Why am I not surprised you fools are dissing Wilko and his tidy shed?

Hataz gonna hate

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #437 on: December 31, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »
According to the Graun, Lambert has accepted that he has to sign players with Prem experience: click

what did he expect .  signing 7 players with no experience in the prem

In the article he pretty much says his rationale was "it worked at Norwich last year" link .

In fairness, you can't blame him for sticking with the policy that's worked for him in the past. There's some very useful players at Norwich at the moment (Pilkington being one).

Different dynamic, though. Norwich were a team on the up, they formed their team bonds as they came through the divisions.

We are a club heading in the opposite direction, with a momentum that will kill off the spirits of young players.

And yet it's still worth sticking with him?

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #438 on: December 31, 2012, 12:40:36 PM »
There is no alternative but to stick with Lambert  but I think if we continue to get walloped week in week out RL will have no option

Online Stu

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #439 on: December 31, 2012, 12:40:46 PM »
Why am I not surprised you fools are dissing Wilko and his tidy shed?

Hataz gonna hate

You forgot the obligatory meme pic:



The cat is Wilko.

Offline Risso

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #440 on: December 31, 2012, 12:44:08 PM »
There is no alternative but to stick with Lambert  but I think if we continue to get walloped week in week out RL will have no option

You're contradicting yourself rather massively there aren't you?  On the one hand, we HAVE to stick with Lambert, but on the other hand, if things continue to be shit, Lerner HAS to sack him?

Offline Ron Manager

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #441 on: December 31, 2012, 12:44:33 PM »
I really don't think that we should be bringing in manager's on the basis they have a tidy shed. I know we all love a tidy shed but where will it all end? Bobby Gould because he has a lovely allottment?

Couldnt trap a bag of cement!  Shanks.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #442 on: December 31, 2012, 12:46:08 PM »
We are not going down and Lambert will get it right.
What makes you think this?

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #443 on: December 31, 2012, 12:56:54 PM »
There is no alternative but to stick with Lambert  but I think if we continue to get walloped week in week out RL will have no option

You're contradicting yourself rather massively there aren't you?  On the one hand, we HAVE to stick with Lambert, but on the other hand, if things continue to be shit, Lerner HAS to sack him?
Not really no. I'm saying he shouldn't be sacked at this present time but continue to get walloped on a weekly basis it would be difficult for RL to keep him.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 01:00:00 PM by LamboAlways »

Offline Des Little

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #444 on: December 31, 2012, 01:16:35 PM »
Lambert has to and will be given time to sort us out. Whilst i'm not sure he will, I think he represents our very best bet to get out of the mire. January is make or break so we have to continue backing him and treat every game like the cup final it's going to be. Cliche corner but it's true!

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #445 on: December 31, 2012, 01:18:39 PM »
According to the Graun, Lambert has accepted that he has to sign players with Prem experience: click

what did he expect .  signing 7 players with no experience in the prem

In the article he pretty much says his rationale was "it worked at Norwich last year" link .

In fairness, you can't blame him for sticking with the policy that's worked for him in the past. There's some very useful players at Norwich at the moment (Pilkington being one).

Different dynamic, though. Norwich were a team on the up, they formed their team bonds as they came through the divisions.

We are a club heading in the opposite direction, with a momentum that will kill off the spirits of young players.

And yet it's still worth sticking with him?

Yes.

Still waiting to hear your suggestion for how to proceed should we sack him today, btw (i'm assuming Roy Keane wasn't a serious one). In fact, you're going to need more than one or two suggestions, as it's not a case of "choose him, he'll come".

If you can't come up with a better, realistic solution, it's just pointless anger for the sake of it. Sacking him the day before the window open would be totally nuts.

What if it takes three weeks to get a new man in? We're then left with someone unfamiliar with the squad with one week to get people in. In January.

Sacking Lambert would mean throwing away all the scouting work done, all the work done on the training pitch, purely because thus far we've struggled.

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 01:20:30 PM by pauliewalnuts »

Offline bertlambshank

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #446 on: December 31, 2012, 01:20:35 PM »
There is no alternative but to stick with Lambert  but I think if we continue to get walloped week in week out RL will have no option

You're contradicting yourself rather massively there aren't you?  On the one hand, we HAVE to stick with Lambert, but on the other hand, if things continue to be shit, Lerner HAS to sack him?
Not really no. I'm saying he shouldn't be sacked at this present time but continue to get walloped on a weekly basis it would be difficult for RL to keep him.
I would be suprised if anybody has been down his heartbreak cellar to tell him we have lost.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #447 on: December 31, 2012, 01:20:51 PM »
Why am I not surprised you fools are dissing Wilko and his tidy shed?

Hataz gonna hate

You forgot the obligatory meme pic:



The cat is Wilko.

Off topic but I don't get this picture...

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #448 on: December 31, 2012, 01:23:28 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix purely to change the players?

Online pauliewalnuts

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #449 on: December 31, 2012, 01:27:31 PM »

Don't you remember how utterly shit we were last season? That's not going to get fixed in a hurry.

But the players were surely not brainwashed into the tactics of Alex McLeish so is the fix purely to change the players?

Maybe it is, but the common fact is that, whether it be McLeish's time, MON's departure, the Houllier year, off the pitch troubles, whatever the cause of where we were last season, it doesn't mattter, the important thing is that we were desperately poor, and it'll take time to stop the momentum behind the club taking us down.

Some people think there's an easy option - you just sack the manager as we enter the crucial January transfer window, and there's automatically someone who is

- better
- available
- happy to come here

and they'll join immediately (and install their entire back room staff), have a thorough overview of our squad, and a predetermined set of transfer targets to allow them to hit the ground running.

It is utter bollocks, it just doesn't happen like that, and some of us need to get over our anger at the last few games and realise that it is actually quite easy to do the "obvious" thing out of anger and make us much worse as a result.

 


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