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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848113 times)

Offline onje_villa

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #315 on: December 30, 2012, 05:14:48 PM »
Think I am going to stop posting now as Paulie pretty much always says what I am thinking! I'd stick with Lambert even if we went down but if there were too many more pastings, I may start to have doubts!

Offline claret and blue blood

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #316 on: December 30, 2012, 05:19:38 PM »
Getting shot of Lambert would be idiocy of the highest order. We need to throw a few bob in his direction for players not start scratching around for yet another new manager with different ideas.

Spot on.

We've taken the plunge to go with his idea of how to get us playing, we now have to stick with it, and back him as much as we can.

This isn't going to be sorted in one season, it'll take much longer than that, we need to get used to the fact.

Personally, I wouldn't sack him even if we went down, I'd keep him and stick with his vision of how he does things.

This isn't a blinkered "can't see his problems / weaknesses" view, either, it's just my opinion that he has more progressive ways of wanting the team to play and that ultimately, it'll start to pay off at some point.

What this team needs more than anything is a bit of spine. When Wigan scored yesterday - with the worst possible timing, you could see the young heads dropping. We started to get into the game much more, and they scored again, and heads dropped once more.

He has made his mistakes - KEA isn't looking up to much, and I still think he relied way, way too much on inexperienced players (starting a match with Barry Bannan having the most PL appearances of the line up says it all) - but at the same time, I've easily seen enough to make me think he ultimately knows what he is doing.

This club needs to set out on a path which people will sign up to (and I believe they have) and to then back the manager with the time and resources necessary to achieve it.

I can't think of anything which would be more detrimental to this club now than to sack the manager, especially not given the timing. I've had enough of starting all over again repeatedly. It doesn't work.

Totally agree with this , said as much as we left the ground yesterday.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #317 on: December 30, 2012, 05:29:22 PM »
I would rather keep Lambert now, as I think it's too late to change course, although he must be given the money and orders to buy experience in January.

A credible alternative?  It's reasonably common knowledge that Mark Hughes has been in the frame on the last two occasions, and I think would still be in Randy's thoughts if it came to it. He's available but whether the whole QPR disaster has tainted him is another matter.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #318 on: December 30, 2012, 05:31:57 PM »
whether you want to accept it or not Lambert is still cleaning up the mess left by the previous 3 full time managers. It's not going to happen in his first season. He has to be given time to permanently rid himself of the contracts of Warnock, Hutton, Dunne, Makoun, N'Zogbia and even Given and Bent. He needs time to properly evaluate who of the kids is worth keeping. Just because Herd is playing poorly now doesn't make him shit. Maybe put him next to a proven player or introduce him gradually is the answer. But doing something utterly stupid like firing Lambert means the whole process starts again and we'll all be discussing this like it's Groundhog Day in 6-8 months.

Offline Boz

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #319 on: December 30, 2012, 05:33:57 PM »
Lambert's bold strategy of bringing in young players of potential is backfiring, but I'd agree we have to keep the faith as changing manager again is no guarantee of anything better. Maybe the policy of young cheaper players is driven by Lerner's hold on the purse strings but with the significant loss of revenue if relegated must lead to some money being available in January, but the players PL would like may not be available or want to come to B6.

If some of the injured players are back soon, hopefully it will restore some confidence to the youngsters, but for now I'd just accept finishing 16th or 17th this season.

For me its Lambert In and give him another season, Championship or Premiership.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #320 on: December 30, 2012, 05:35:28 PM »
This talk of Roy Keane is insane.
Have you read his biography? Sociopathic at best.
What he would do to a dressing room of youngsters is terrifying.

I would definitely play him thou even at his age

Exactly. I said the other day, when Lambert was thinking who to bring on, it should be himself.
Paul Scholes is unlikely to come here now but he would have made a great difference.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #321 on: December 30, 2012, 05:38:06 PM »
If Lambert gets us relegated, there isn't a cat in hells chance that he will stay in the job. Can you really see the fans accepting that?  Long term planning goes out of the window if we are relegated.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #322 on: December 30, 2012, 05:38:07 PM »
we need an older pro that is willing to speak his mind and lift young heads. Guzan is the only one that can get at players but he's in goal. We really miss Stan out there.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #323 on: December 30, 2012, 05:39:25 PM »
If Lambert gets us relegated, there isn't a cat in hells chance that he will staying he job. Can you really see the fans accepting that?  Long term planning goes out of the window if we are relegated.

I don't think that he'd be fired at all. In fact we'd have a much better chance of coming back up with him in charge.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #324 on: December 30, 2012, 05:40:24 PM »
whether you want to accept it or not Lambert is still cleaning up the mess left by the previous 3 full time managers. It's not going to happen in his first season. He has to be given time to permanently rid himself of the contracts of Warnock, Hutton, Dunne, Makoun, N'Zogbia and even Given and Bent. He needs time to properly evaluate who of the kids is worth keeping. Just because Herd is playing poorly now doesn't make him shit. Maybe put him next to a proven player or introduce him gradually is the answer. But doing something utterly stupid like firing Lambert means the whole process starts again and we'll all be discussing this like it's Groundhog Day in 6-8 months.

This, a million times this. We need to re-build, and I think Lambert is the man for the job. He needs to be backed to get some quality players though.

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #325 on: December 30, 2012, 05:41:23 PM »
That's not what the whisper was yesterday.

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #326 on: December 30, 2012, 05:42:11 PM »
If Lambert gets us relegated, there isn't a cat in hells chance that he will staying he job. Can you really see the fans accepting that?  Long term planning goes out of the window if we are relegated.

I don't think that he'd be fired at all. In fact we'd have a much better chance of coming back up with him in charge.

I actually don't disagree with you. What I am saying is that there is no chance that supporters would tolerate it. Just watch the backlash come May. A new broom might help to shift tickets. I just think that will be the reality, not necessarily the best thing.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #327 on: December 30, 2012, 05:42:32 PM »
That's not what the whisper was yesterday.

So what was it? He'd be sacked if we drop?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #328 on: December 30, 2012, 05:43:18 PM »
That's not what the whisper was yesterday.

You old tease dc5, please elaborate on the whisper, even if only by pm?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #329 on: December 30, 2012, 05:43:51 PM »
That is what the GM section of the site is for.

 


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