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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 848117 times)

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #180 on: December 29, 2012, 11:02:25 PM »
Fecking Mourinho would have difficulty picking a decent team from that squad today and the early goal knocked the stuffing from them. No excuse though how they folded and Lambert does have to take part of the blame for that. Having said that, who are we going to bring in? We need some experience and Lerner needs to back his manager. 15 goals in 3 games is humiliating, and everyone involved in that should be ashamed of their contribution

Offline Rip Van We Go Again

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #181 on: December 29, 2012, 11:03:37 PM »
I'm certain new players will be in this window.

At the same time i'm fairly certain they'll be youngsters.

I get the feeling that Lambert has a rabid belief in this policy and is unwilling to try a plan B (see also Martin O'Neill and Arsene Wenger)

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #182 on: December 29, 2012, 11:46:12 PM »
He's gotta get a grip and soon. The players didn't know what they were doing ffs. Ran round like headless chickens for the most part.  Part of life that Villa will play badly and generally be shite every now and then but this was more than that. Smells like Billy McNeil to me. No that's unfair...., graham turner. Sort out the defence for starters - its pish. any decent side or bad side for that matter sorts out the defence for starters and then builds from there - we're not manu who can let slide 3 goals and then win the game ffs. This is really basic stuff and i'm bemused lambert seems to be incapable of working it out.

Offline Eigentor

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2012, 12:00:35 AM »
As mentioned by others, we have no real alternative to sticking with Lambert. (Suggestions like Alan Curbishley and Roy Keane are parodic.)

Besides, I still think he is a decent manager, though it looks as if he is a bit lost: the current team has so many deficiencies that it is difficult to know where to start. Common sense say that first priority should be to organize and focus on the defence: any team that knows it will concede three or four goals at a minimum will struggle to enter any match with any belief that they can get a point. Sadly, defending, tactics and game plans don't seem to be Paul Lambert's strong point. He should, however, be smart enough to surround himself with people capable of balancing out that particular weakness.

A first step should be players that actually look like they know what to do in different situations, who look like they have been instructed on a training pitch. Currently they run around like headless chickens, ball-watching and running around in a shape that looks like a blackboard drawing by a three year old.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #184 on: December 30, 2012, 12:03:36 AM »
Welcome back Greg

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #185 on: December 30, 2012, 12:03:55 AM »
Sort out the defence for starters - its pish. any decent side or bad side for that matter sorts out the defence for starters and then builds from there - we're not manu who can let slide 3 goals and then win the game ffs. This is really basic stuff and i'm bemused lambert seems to be incapable of working it out.

He appeared to have done that with the 532 system. But injuries mostly put paid to that.

Offline BegbieAV

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #186 on: December 30, 2012, 12:05:11 AM »
The problem is simple, you can't play 3 at the back. He is not in Germany any more. We have got no width to supply the strikers 4 4 2 gives the fullbacks more options to get forward and leave the midfield more balanced to do their job

Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #187 on: December 30, 2012, 12:06:20 AM »
The problem is simple, you can't play 3 at the back. He is not in Germany any more. We have got no width to supply the strikers 4 4 2 gives the fullbacks more options to get forward and leave the midfield more balanced to do their job
I know what you are trying to say but just juggling the formation will make no difference if the midfield are fucking crap.

Offline villan from luton

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #188 on: December 30, 2012, 12:09:37 AM »
Herd is never a feckign centre back, and Lichaj in the right wing back role was like a shite useless de la cruz

Offline Ross

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #189 on: December 30, 2012, 12:11:43 AM »
Herd is never a feckign centre back, and Lichaj in the right wing back role was like a shite useless de la cruz

A shite useless? That's saying something, but you are spot on. *weeps*

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #190 on: December 30, 2012, 12:18:11 AM »
Sort out the defence for starters - its pish. any decent side or bad side for that matter sorts out the defence for starters and then builds from there - we're not manu who can let slide 3 goals and then win the game ffs. This is really basic stuff and i'm bemused lambert seems to be incapable of working it out.

He appeared to have done that with the 532 system. But injuries mostly put paid to that.

yes thats true but 15 goals in 3 games? there's div1 teams who wouldn't let that in against premier league opposition. they'd probably lose but to that extent?  Dare i say it but we wouldn't have been hammered into the ground if the TSM was still here. 2 losses and a draw at best mind. Whatever way you look at it lamberts let things go awry. Plenty of teams have shite midfields and can still get a draw.

Offline Greg N'Ash

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #191 on: December 30, 2012, 12:19:48 AM »

Offline claretandbeer

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #192 on: December 30, 2012, 12:24:48 AM »
The problem is simple, you can't play 3 at the back. He is not in Germany any more. We have got no width to supply the strikers 4 4 2 gives the fullbacks more options to get forward and leave the midfield more balanced to do their job
German sides are doing well in the Champions Lge. 442 leaves your midfield outnumbered ,perhaps you haven't been watching England for the last 20 yrs. Ferguson realised that when his talented sides weren't winning the Champions Lge. United ,Arsenal and Chelsea don't play that system and Citeh don't play with wide men.Spanish sides don't and most Italian ones,including the national side,play 352. Why ?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #193 on: December 30, 2012, 12:33:53 AM »
Sort out the defence for starters - its pish. any decent side or bad side for that matter sorts out the defence for starters and then builds from there - we're not manu who can let slide 3 goals and then win the game ffs. This is really basic stuff and i'm bemused lambert seems to be incapable of working it out.

He appeared to have done that with the 532 system. But injuries mostly put paid to that.

yes thats true but 15 goals in 3 games? there's div1 teams who wouldn't let that in against premier league opposition. they'd probably lose but to that extent?  Dare i say it but we wouldn't have been hammered into the ground if the TSM was still here. 2 losses and a draw at best mind. Whatever way you look at it lamberts let things go awry. Plenty of teams have shite midfields and can still get a draw.

The 8-0, although bad is on par with MON's last result there, with more experienced defenders. Tottenham were all over us and probably would have won but would it have been 4 if Baker was still on the field. Would Wigan have won today or would it have been a 0-0? What if Vlaar was back and could steady the ship? Prior to that the defence had done well for 5 matches including against Arse. The trouble is that the formation is only temporary and as also shown in the last few, midfield can be overrun quite easily against better drilled mid-fielders.

Offline BegbieAV

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #194 on: December 30, 2012, 12:34:34 AM »
You need to play with width, if you can accomodate it with 3 at the back, fair play, a national team will do it no problem but Lambert at Villa trying to do it with kids has got no chance.

 


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