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Author Topic: Lambert in or out? Poll reset with majority 'in', 7th May  (Read 847930 times)

Offline Ads

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #105 on: December 29, 2012, 08:00:40 PM »
What I took from it was that he was more willing to gamble on a hungry player. Whether that means young, is something we've all inferred.

If the right old boy is available, I think he'd do it.

Offline eastie

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #106 on: December 29, 2012, 08:04:06 PM »
What I took from it was that he was more willing to gamble on a hungry player. Whether that means young, is something we've all inferred.

If the right old boy is available, I think he'd do it.
May sound odd but I wonder if he is one of those managers who are uncomfortable handling big name players, he hasn't exactly done well with bent, given, nzogbia or Ireland and seems more comfortable with lesser known names.


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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #107 on: December 29, 2012, 08:06:17 PM »
What I took from it was that he was more willing to gamble on a hungry player. Whether that means young, is something we've all inferred.

If the right old boy is available, I think he'd do it.
May sound odd but I wonder if he is one of those managers who are uncomfortable handling big name players, he hasn't exactly done well with bent, given, nzogbia or Ireland and seems more comfortable with lesser known names.

Bent maybe, especially the dropping, but Nzog and Ireland (and some extent Given) have all been played and all not done the business as senior players.

Offline BenEeles

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #108 on: December 29, 2012, 08:08:01 PM »
At the end of the day Lambert will sign someone in the transfer window, experience or not, who will make a difference. He isn't going to hint that we WILL make signings as the next question will be: "What targets do you have in mind?" for example. Just give him time, it's a working progress and will take time unlike McLeish and Houllier.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #109 on: December 29, 2012, 08:09:01 PM »
What I took from it was that he was more willing to gamble on a hungry player. Whether that means young, is something we've all inferred.

If the right old boy is available, I think he'd do it.
May sound odd but I wonder if he is one of those managers who are uncomfortable handling big name players, he hasn't exactly done well with bent, given, nzogbia or Ireland and seems more comfortable with lesser known names.

Bent maybe, especially the dropping, but Nzog and Ireland (and some extent Given) have all been played and all not done the business as senior players.

But isn't it his job to get the best out of his senior players?

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #110 on: December 29, 2012, 08:09:48 PM »
If we have a wage cap of say 30k a week. Who could Lambert have signed?

We need to bite the bullet and pay People like Diame the money they want.
His agent as a good as said, he has a 3.5 million but out clause, because he is not on the wages he wants, he can either go for 3.5 or West Ham can renegotiate.

But to slate Lambert who has a plan and vision for our future.

Vlaar and Dunne as CB with Clark and Baker as back up, that's a good defence, but 3 are injured.

KEA is an experienced midfielder, that started great, got suspended, then couldn't get back in due to the good form of Bannan and Westwood. Who would have thought, all 3 would lose their form at the same time.

Paul Lambert is working to a budget and does not have free reign, he isn't lumbering our club with journeymen like McLeish and MON, he is trying to build our club up and secure a healthy future.

Yes we have hit a blip, due mainly to injuries, but we have to stick with him he is the right man.

The last two years injuries played a big part and it wasn't till the experienced players came back we actually secured our league status.

Offline asgpaul

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #111 on: December 29, 2012, 08:12:46 PM »
It would be madness to sack Lambert now.  As others have pointed out the transfer window is a few days away, besides who would we get in or more to the point, who would want to come in?  Its been an horrendous set of results of late, and the season itself has been hugely disappointing to put it mildly.  I see the main problem being the lack of numbers and experience, I for one would gamble on Lambert rectifying this in January subject to Lerner backing him.

Also I don't like this 3 or 5 at the back and hope Lambert changes this for Swansea. 

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #112 on: December 29, 2012, 08:12:47 PM »
If we have a wage cap of say 30k a week. Who could Lambert have signed?

We need to bite the bullet and pay People like Diame the money they want.
His agent as a good as said, he has a 3.5 million but out clause, because he is not on the wages he wants, he can either go for 3.5 or West Ham can renegotiate.

But to slate Lambert who has a plan and vision for our future.

Vlaar and Dunne as CB with Clark and Baker as back up, that's a good defence, but 3 are injured.

KEA is an experienced midfielder, that started great, got suspended, then couldn't get back in due to the good form of Bannan and Westwood. Who would have thought, all 3 would lose their form at the same time.

Paul Lambert is working to a budget and does not have free reign, he isn't lumbering our club with journeymen like McLeish and MON, he is trying to build our club up and secure a healthy future.

Yes we have hit a blip, due mainly to injuries, but we have to stick with him he is the right man.

The last two years injuries played a big part and it wasn't till the experienced players came back we actually secured our league status.

Hit a blip? 0-8, 0-4 and 0-3 is more than a blip.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #113 on: December 29, 2012, 08:14:03 PM »
The big concern just like last year is there is no defined style of attacking play. Yes at times there's some o.k passing football but it fizzles out all too quickly or we just pass backwards.

Look at our 4 wins this season. Swansea was a good performance but in reality was a false dawn as we lost at Southampton 4-1 and that set us back for a good month in the league, we played o.k at Sunderland, Reading was really a 0-0 game but Benteke popped up and his individual brilliance pretty much won us the game at Anfield.

The play under MON was boring, rigid and predictable but at least we knew what we were going to get in terms of style of play and against the majority of the league it worked.

Just like under TSM, I'm struggling to see what the play is apart from hoping for some individual brilliance to win us the game.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #114 on: December 29, 2012, 08:17:33 PM »
There is no focus point in the link between the midfield and attack.

We need somebody with pace qnd a bit of flair qho can get beyond the frontmen or put in a good delivery.

Its a spot where we have to buy a youthful player, unless we want to spend mega money. Get Vlaar fit, get somebody of quality alongside him, give Westwood a bruiser for a partner, sign the link-man and we have a chance.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #115 on: December 29, 2012, 08:18:51 PM »
Should have sacked him a month ago and got Harry Redknapp in ;D

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #116 on: December 29, 2012, 08:23:26 PM »
Is our best chance of making the most of our better players is by signing players to supplement them. Let's get someone to put crosses in the box for Benteke and Bent. Let's get a fighter along side Westwood. Let's get someone with some pace along side Vlaar. Like what Ads said. Pretty accurate.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #117 on: December 29, 2012, 08:26:23 PM »
I was there today, Lambert is ballsing it up, no doubt, but i'd rather have Mick Mills take over than Roy Keane, he's an arrogant wanker who would get the kids backs up straight way. Martin surprises me suggesting him though as he knows full well where the problem lies - It's the retarded, sit on his hands owner who has been more than happy to watch us enjoy a slow death since O'Neill flounced off.

We need wholesale changes with heavy investment, this will not happen until this idiotic moron of a man decides to sell up.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #118 on: December 29, 2012, 08:27:21 PM »
What I took from it was that he was more willing to gamble on a hungry player. Whether that means young, is something we've all inferred.

If the right old boy is available, I think he'd do it.
May sound odd but I wonder if he is one of those managers who are uncomfortable handling big name players, he hasn't exactly done well with bent, given, nzogbia or Ireland and seems more comfortable with lesser known names.

Bent maybe, especially the dropping, but Nzog and Ireland (and some extent Given) have all been played and all not done the business as senior players.

But isn't it his job to get the best out of his senior players?

Well he is the 2nd one we have who hasn't got anything out of Nzog and the 3rd one (4th including Pardew) who hasn't got anything out of Ireland. At a certain point the players needs to be looked at and not the manager.

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Re: Lambert out
« Reply #119 on: December 29, 2012, 08:29:54 PM »
There is no focus point in the link between the midfield and attack.

We need somebody with pace qnd a bit of flair qho can get beyond the frontmen or put in a good delivery.

Its a spot where we have to buy a youthful player, unless we want to spend mega money. Get Vlaar fit, get somebody of quality alongside him, give Westwood a bruiser for a partner, sign the link-man and we have a chance.

We need exactly what/how Robbie Keane was last season for us.

 


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